Is it ok to have a DPS meter?

[Digi]

Is it ok and do you guys know any good ones?

[Fregi]

what a strangely non-toxic thread

visual mods are fine, since imo most of them can make hunting harder (modelswaps change what's normally familiar)
shop mods are good only if buying that item directly would genuinely save so much frustration that you'd get burned out from trying
Tracker mods such as SmartHunter are fine. Just KEEP THE INFORMATION TO YOURSELF unless asked for
Damage/stat boosting mods should only be used in solo, and even then... what kind of person are you?

The only bannable mods in the game are those that give you future content early (Remember frostfang barioth?), or mods that directly ♥♥♥♥ with Capcom's servers. Other than that, you're fine. Use etiquette.

edit : i posted too soon, i see something starting

[Digi]

Originally posted by Wicked:

Do whatever makes the game more enjoyable for you, as long as it doesn't ruin others experience. You get the idea. In general, for most things, if ever, no ban will follow.

Cheers man.
Wasn't aiming to ruin anyones experience of the game anyway.

[Digi]

Originally posted by Fregi:

what a strangely non-toxic thread

visual mods are fine, since imo most of them can make hunting harder (modelswaps change what's normally familiar)
shop mods are good only if buying that item directly would genuinely save so much frustration that you'd get burned out from trying
Tracker mods such as SmartHunter are fine. Just KEEP THE INFORMATION TO YOURSELF unless asked for
Damage/stat boosting mods should only be used in solo, and even then... what kind of person are you?

The only bannable mods in the game are those that give you future content early (Remember frostfang barioth?), or mods that directly ♥♥♥♥ with Capcom's servers. Other than that, you're fine. Use etiquette.

edit : i posted too soon, i see something starting

Damage boosting? That's stupid, it's like using a trainer to one shot monsters. Whats the point?
Never heard any of the other mods you mentioned.

What are the shop mods? Do you directly buy something from a vendor without having to go to him?

Yeah someone is trying to start something but ignoring him would be the best option.

[Tregrenos]

Originally posted by Fregi:

shop mods are good only if buying that item directly would genuinely save so much frustration that you'd get burned out from trying

This is one of those hard cheats you can't argue around. I'm surprised you would even try to validate this, unless you're trying to fool yourself. It's most likely the later since you're calling this a "mod" rather than what it actually is, a "cheat".

Let's be honest with ourselves, by starting off with "what a strangely non-toxic thread" we both know you only mentioned this cheat because you knew it would bring the toxicity to the thread.

Originally posted by Digi:

What are the shop mods? Do you directly buy something from a vendor without having to go to him?

They are cheats that nullify any grind in the game by making everything for sale. They are also a common cause behind people complaining they can't load into the game after an update because they have a cheated item in they shouldn't have and their save could potentially be corrupted as a result.

[glythe]

I had a friend who tried to convince me that the damage meter wasn't cheating. Fatalis is a perfect example that is is - knowing you need to get to the barrier within 1,000 hp so you can close the door instantly.

Or you can look and see that the head has X health remaining. Even just being able to look and say , "the monster has 4,000 health left" can be a huge self confidence boost.

If you wanna cheat, go ahead. Just don't unlock stuff you shouldn't have, crash the servers, or ruin the game for other people.

[the commando]

Originally posted by Digi:

Originally posted by Fregi:

what a strangely non-toxic thread

visual mods are fine, since imo most of them can make hunting harder (modelswaps change what's normally familiar)
shop mods are good only if buying that item directly would genuinely save so much frustration that you'd get burned out from trying
Tracker mods such as SmartHunter are fine. Just KEEP THE INFORMATION TO YOURSELF unless asked for
Damage/stat boosting mods should only be used in solo, and even then... what kind of person are you?

The only bannable mods in the game are those that give you future content early (Remember frostfang barioth?), or mods that directly ♥♥♥♥ with Capcom's servers. Other than that, you're fine. Use etiquette.

edit : i posted too soon, i see something starting

Damage boosting? That's stupid, it's like using a trainer to one shot monsters. Whats the point?
Never heard any of the other mods you mentioned.

What are the shop mods? Do you directly buy something from a vendor without having to go to him?

Yeah someone is trying to start something but ignoring him would be the best option.

well a shop mod in most cases is a mod that adds either a new npc shop or adds to the exsisting npc shop all the item which includeds, weapon, monster parts, charms, gems, basicly anything you can think of someone doesn't want to grind for.
now can you see the problem already hmmm, the whole game is based around getting these items and after you have them there isn't much reason to keep playing anymore.

[Tregrenos]

Originally posted by glythe:

I had a friend who tried to convince me that the damage meter wasn't cheating. Fatalis is a perfect example that is is - knowing you need to get to the barrier within 1,000 hp so you can close the door instantly.

Or you can look and see that the head has X health remaining. Even just being able to look and say , "the monster has 4,000 health left" can be a huge self confidence boost.

If you wanna cheat, go ahead. Just don't unlock stuff you shouldn't have, crash the servers, or ruin the game for other people.

Which is not actually the DPS meter itself. Unfortunately, every DPS meter comes coupled with this overlay garbage. If you disable the overlay you're left only with the damage numbers you and the others are doing to the target. Not on a part to part basis, but as a whole. It's not telling you that the head has taken X damage, only that X damage total for each person based on a percentage of the damage being done. Not a percentage based on how much health the monster has, but VS each players contribution to the fight.

The closest thing to a cheat you could use this particular aspect for would be that you could add up the numbers and get a rough guestimate to how much health the monster had total, but with a fight like Fatalis it's certainly not something you'll be able to rely on as the visual ques are more than enough to tell you what you need to do and when.

Can DPS meter be used to cheat? Yes, it comes coupled with cheats after all. You'll have to disable the additional garbage to not be labeled as a cheater. Is the DPS meter alone a cheat? No, as it's not actually telling you anything you don't already know. Is it useful outside of the cheats? Yes, as it does indeed help you refine your builds. The training area comes with aspects like this, but given how the target is stationary and generally lacks much armor it's not that reliable when designing a build for something like Fatalis. I'd rather someone go into a Fatalis fight having tested builds on their own against it rather than against a wooden pole IMO.

[Digi]

Originally posted by the commando:

Originally posted by Digi:

Damage boosting? That's stupid, it's like using a trainer to one shot monsters. Whats the point?
Never heard any of the other mods you mentioned.

What are the shop mods? Do you directly buy something from a vendor without having to go to him?

Yeah someone is trying to start something but ignoring him would be the best option.

well a shop mod in most cases is a mod that adds either a new npc shop or adds to the exsisting npc shop all the item which includeds, weapon, monster parts, charms, gems, basicly anything you can think of someone doesn't want to grind for.
now can you see the problem already hmmm, the whole game is based around getting these items and after you have them there isn't much reason to keep playing anymore.

Oh yeah that's not really great.
Not really familiar with mods in monster hunter that's why I ask.

Thanks for explaining bud.

[Preacher JLU]

Originally posted by Otaconnor:

You will not be banned if you use one.

HunterPie is the best one.

Please don't be an @$$ and post the party's damage in chat just to brag.

You can also disable monster health bars, etc if you only are interested in DPS. Please keep this in mind when using it online as many players consider it cheating.

No you will not be banned if you use one. HunterPie is the best overlay and I use it. It is not cheating. But be aware that you will see just how bad so many people suck at this game. I have gone through fights that some people do less than 5% damage and this is very very often.

PS: Damage meters are not cheating but anything beyond that is like shop mods and things like that that make getting stuff simple and really pointless to play the game. A damage meter just gives you stats on the Damage and nothing more you still have to kill the Monster. I think they should have added dame meters or some way to check your damage a long time ago in MH, this has always been one thing I disliked about MH games, no way to see health, it is just a game after all.

[Digi]

Originally posted by MrFourTwenty:

Originally posted by Otaconnor:

You will not be banned if you use one.

HunterPie is the best one.

Please don't be an @$$ and post the party's damage in chat just to brag.

You can also disable monster health bars, etc if you only are interested in DPS. Please keep this in mind when using it online as many players consider it cheating.

No you will not be banned if you use one. HunterPie is the best overlay and I use it. It is not cheating. But be aware that you will see just how bad so many people suck at this game. I have gone through fights that some people do less than 5% damage and this is very very often.

PS: Damage meters are not cheating but anything beyond that is like shop mods and things like that that make getting stuff simple and really pointless to play the game. A damage meter just gives you stats on the Damage and nothing more you still have to kill the Monster. I think they should have added dame meters or some way to check your damage a long time ago in MH, this has always been one thing I disliked about MH games, no way to see health, it is just a game after all.

Or you can see that you suck and you need to make yourself better at the game. Mainly that's why I want it.

No point arguing with the weirdos though. Just ignore them completely.

[Preacher JLU]

Originally posted by Digi:

Originally posted by MrFourTwenty:

No you will not be banned if you use one. HunterPie is the best overlay and I use it. It is not cheating. But be aware that you will see just how bad so many people suck at this game. I have gone through fights that some people do less than 5% damage and this is very very often.

PS: Damage meters are not cheating but anything beyond that is like shop mods and things like that that make getting stuff simple and really pointless to play the game. A damage meter just gives you stats on the Damage and nothing more you still have to kill the Monster. I think they should have added dame meters or some way to check your damage a long time ago in MH, this has always been one thing I disliked about MH games, no way to see health, it is just a game after all.

Or you can see that you suck and you need to make yourself better at the game. Mainly that's why I want it.

No point arguing with the weirdos though. Just ignore them completely.

Yep, exactly. Like I said this is something that should have been added a long time ago and I have always advocated for it.

[Tregrenos]

Originally posted by MrFourTwenty:

HunterPie is the best overlay and I use it. It is not cheating.

The DPS meter itself isn't a cheat, but everything else coupled with HunterPie is. If you're using any options other than the DPS meter you are a cheater.

[Avalon Cherazer]

mods are for each persons preference. just like fetishes and opinion. many are in grey areas but each one just defines a little bit different because of their moral compass.

these are quality of life to some , a huge uproar to others or something tolerated.

keep in mind: there are things better kept untold.

sometimes the best mods are those eye candy that allows you to dress up your husbando/waifu
as such motivation overcomes a lot of things. and these mods are those that prolongs the shelf life of the game.

certain mods for DPS and statuses are detrimental. you know exactly when a flinch will take effect or a topple so you can play safe for mega DEEPS. im not saying its bad but this game has garnered too many elitist who will persecute you for just knowing the information of having less DPS than them.

at a certain point of time when you can no longer do anything new like playing the game for 2.5k hrs in vanilla before iceborn you will start to wonder. i want to do something else. that's where most people try to experiment with stuff. like fighting a nergigante that spams mud, kirin lightning and lunastra nova.

my stands for mod is as long as you dont crash my game im cool. remember when capcom decided to put anti-cheat in the start of iceborne. id rather let the guy in desperation of cheat and ego boosting brag his ISEKAI cheat powers in my face. than go and get 2-20 fps in astera just standing. who knows maybe that guy is in need of attention or go bouts of depression. maybe hes just coping up with being marinated in salt for years unable to get on an average level player, maybe he just polished the craft of being a human dormat and wants to also experience how to be an elite regardless of the method.

ive seen people who will nerf the most commonly used weapon. making my average damage half or lower. ever seen an aquashot that has only rapid fire normal 1, 2 shots per clip and very long reload and nothing else?
or ever wonder why your kajar katana has only red sharpness?

i use mods mainly for visual effects. like the mod where every one is replaced by the handler's head. it gives me the creeps. it makes me shudder in fear.and it makes me dream when can we have a permanent serious handler mod.

[Hurricane]

I will test this tonight i think... im totally anti mod even cosmetic mods but ive beaten the game now basically and would like to see what this mod actually does and get a better understanding of dps.

I class this mod as a cheat. And no doubt ive played with 100s of people using it with no idea. So i suppose what you dont know cant hurt you. But at the end of the day the game isnt supposed to be played with such mods so its cheating.

[Dundo]

I'd just like to point out as long as your mods don't really affect online play, use whatever. To everyone discussing what is cheating and what is not, who cares; if you want completely non-modded safe zones play on console, the way we played for years before World.