So how do you fight Vaal Hazak with the lance effectively?

[Noot Noot Time to Scoot]

I main the lance and I was going to farm Vaal for his awesome looking armour but he's unlike any other monster in the sense that my shield doesn't make me invincible. He has a few attacks like a Demon Prince style laser attack and a Kalameet style attack where he flies up and breathes his air all over the floor. My shield can't block these, and i'd only be able to roll away if it didn't take an hour to sheathe my weapon. So that means that dodging isn't viable for me either.

Oh yeah, also all his attacks one shot me even when i don't have my HP cut in half.

[Hammer Of Evil]

Originally posted by AfLIcTeD:

I swear the games goes, "Oh, I see your using lance as your main. Do you want a release deco?"

if you're getting 'bad luck' with decoration rolls, try decreasing your kill times to 5 minutes or less. and make sure you're targeting the correct monsters, as well.

that frown will turn upside down. make a goal of it.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Health. Augment.

[puzzlefox]

My first AT solo kill on Val was with a lance. Miasma decos were mandatory, and earplugs helped a lot for val’s stupid roar+body slam move.

Try to stick to the right side of him since his spray lazer swipes from your left to your right. Nice part about lance is, you can quickly get into that safe zone if you’re far from him as he’s winding up.

As always with lance, play aggressive. You should be poking nonstop with a brief pause only to power guard / counter.

Health augment on lance is almost always a good idea. If you don’t have a tarroth crest claw, I would use the jho lance.

[StormhawkV]

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

If you don’t have a tarroth crest claw, I would use the jho lance.

Why Jho? It needs MM to reach 100% affinity and Handicraft for white sharpness.

[puzzlefox]

1. Jho is easy to craft
2. Even at blue sharpness, with vals dragon weakness, it will still do great dmg.
3. It looks ba

I dunno, I use the jho lance frequently, and while it’s not nearly as good as the claw, it’s still a lot of fun to use

[StormhawkV]

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

1. Jho is easy to craft
2. Even at blue sharpness, with vals dragon weakness, it will still do great dmg.
3. It looks ba

I dunno, I use the jho lance frequently, and while it’s not nearly as good as the claw, it’s still a lot of fun to use

But Vaal isn't weak to Dragon and even if he was, Lance is a really bad elemental weapon.

[JebKerman]

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

1. Jho is easy to craft
2. Even at blue sharpness, with vals dragon weakness, it will still do great dmg.
3. It looks ba

I dunno, I use the jho lance frequently, and while it’s not nearly as good as the claw, it’s still a lot of fun to use

But Vaal isn't weak to Dragon and even if he was, Lance is a really bad elemental weapon.

Vaal gets weak to dragon once parts are broken, fire is better generally though as it's unconditional. And Lance is a pretty decent elemental, even status weapon. it's probably the slowest weapon that can really take advantage of them.

People usually pick jho for the raw damage anyway, the dragon is gravy. The caveat, and, tbh it's kinda big for lance, is the negative affinity.

[tag545]

Originally posted by JebKerman:

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

But Vaal isn't weak to Dragon and even if he was, Lance is a really bad elemental weapon.

Vaal gets weak to dragon once parts are broken, fire is better generally though as it's unconditional. And Lance is a pretty decent elemental, even status weapon. it's probably the slowest weapon that can really take advantage of them.

People usually pick jho for the raw damage anyway, the dragon is gravy. The caveat, and, tbh it's kinda big for lance, is the negative affinity.

lance is an ok elemental weapon but its not better to use element because the elemental weapons available to lance cant compete against the raw weapons (PRAISE BE TO THE CLAW) even in the best case scenarios (until the release of kjarr weapons and not much reason to get those now), this extends to the other (kind of) elemental weapons like insect glaive and charge blade.
it isnt until you get kjarr weapons that you are able to do more damage with elemental builds for these weapons. and even with kjarr weapons its mainly against the monsters with unusually high weakness like using the kjarr dragon lance vs the rath family instead of the claw.

the "good" craftable lances are the odo lance taking first place if you go the masters touch route. the jho lance if you dont. (jho lance cant reach 100% affinity without max might so you cant get that infinite sharpness that lance craves)

[StormhawkV]

Originally posted by JebKerman:

Vaal gets weak to dragon once parts are broken, fire is better generally though as it's unconditional. And Lance is a pretty decent elemental, even status weapon. it's probably the slowest weapon that can really take advantage of them.

People usually pick jho for the raw damage anyway, the dragon is gravy. The caveat, and, tbh it's kinda big for lance, is the negative affinity.

Only Vaal's broken head has a halfway decent hit zone value for Dragon. Lance only does 70% of its elemental damage with its most important attack. If you don't have Kjarr Lances don't bother with elements. You'll only lose damage.

[lexilogo]

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Only Vaal's broken head has a halfway decent hit zone value for Dragon. Lance only does 70% of its elemental damage with its most important attack. If you don't have Kjarr Lances don't bother with elements. You'll only lose damage.

We can talk about efficient DPS AFTER a monster's been beaten. People who are struggling with Vaal can benefit a lot from Dragon weapons, the Elderseal will help keep Vaal's effluvium gone.

Jho lance is far from the best, but far from the worst.

[Noot Noot Time to Scoot]

so is the chrome lance 2 a bad choice? At this point in the game Id rather have a lance that i can use for everything rather than a different lance for each situation.

[Shift]

Guard up and effluvial expert from girros belt or charm and effluvial resitance from vaal armor or gems to avoid the half health debuff and you won't take any damage at all except the ocasional chip damage (unless you go ironwall 5, but that's overkill).