Monster Hunter: World

Monster Hunter: World

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Ol'Chum Feb 10, 2020 @ 9:33pm
tips to get better?
I got MHW very recently. Currently rocked 45 hours into in in like a few days. Soloed practically everything up to Glavicus in Iceborne (I got him) but all of the monsters in Iceborne take so much time to kill for me its insane. 30 minutes every fight is very exhausting. I have full lunar set with night paolmu helmet and viper (fang? Viper tobi-kodachi 1) LS. I still don't entirely understand the Clutch claw too.
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Sabayonz Feb 10, 2020 @ 9:40pm 
Hi there, iam new too to this whole monster hunter , this my first game,, play around 100hours,, still bad at timing to dodge the attack and see the opening,, about all the items and system iam pretty much understand everything, just watch YouTube and read wiki,,, but with the time pass, i can feel that i start developing muscle memory,,, that being said, you can rush to learn the system and items, but the "timing" is take time.
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In the low rank quests there is a 1 star optional to learn the clutch claw if that helps.

To answer your other question In every MH game since the first Grank or Master Rank in this game always gives every monster a crap ton of Hp. So yes the average time to kill/capture a monster does go up in iceborne.

Dont forget you can capture monsters when they are skulled which will shave time off. Using the clutch claw will makes hunts quicker cause you are able to do more damage and knock them into walls to do even more damage. Look for environmental traps like Landslides and Crystals in some of the areas which do a % amount of a monsters Hp in dmg
puzzlefox Feb 10, 2020 @ 9:55pm 
It comes with time and research. Watch YouTube videos for weapon and monster mechanics. I recommend the master class vids. Here are a few pointers from yours truly:
- dont chase meta. Use what feels right
- as a LS, you want max weakness exploit, as much critical eye as you can get away with, health boost 3, a level or two of focus doesn’t hurt, earplugs 5 is REALY nice to have
- in MR, the max lvl ore LS is very balanced, easy to get, and will carry you through the entire story
- quick sheath is a waste unless you’re running a pure lai build
- practice by joining SOS
Velesianus Feb 10, 2020 @ 9:55pm 
Get more decos and monster parts. Eventually your increasingly better builds combined with knowledge will put most your hunts below 10 minutes. Not really any shortcuts.
iNol Feb 10, 2020 @ 10:04pm 
If something sucks to fight with palicoes, try to 1v1 it. No palico. Sometimes it makes the fight more fun coz more engaging with you always being targeted. Freely whacking Kuluyaku from the side can get boring fast. 10 mins doing that feels like you're whacking a tank. 15 mins 1v1 with it is more engaging.

Originally posted by RIOT|Stalkermaster:
In the low rank quests there is a 1 star optional to learn the clutch claw if that helps.

To answer your other question In every MH game since the first Grank or Master Rank in this game always gives every monster a crap ton of Hp. So yes the average time to kill/capture a monster does go up in iceborne.

Dont forget you can capture monsters when they are skulled which will shave time off. Using the clutch claw will makes hunts quicker cause you are able to do more damage and knock them into walls to do even more damage. Look for environmental traps like Landslides and Crystals in some of the areas which do a % amount of a monsters Hp in dmg

True, I personally always felt they (G rank) have too much HP for the progression proper weapons (MHGU, MHW). Tho the fact that monsters move to different room every few minutes does help. Single room, nonstop fight like Arena sucks big time. I have grown to despise the event Barioth quest. Always in that very same room for 10+ minutes. Would be much difference if location is in Hoarfrost Reach, at least I will fight in 3 different rooms there.
Nonfat Milk Feb 10, 2020 @ 10:04pm 
learn to use the clutch claw, wounding a monster significantly increases your damage to that part
lexilogo Feb 10, 2020 @ 10:08pm 
Master Rank monsters have a lot more health than LR/HR equivalents, to compensate for factors like players having optimised builds and being proficient with their weapon movesets, plus the Clutch Claw. You going straight through the basegame into Iceborne, especially with a weapon like Longsword that leans a lot into damage potential being locked behind the player being experienced with the moveset, will make that difference more extreme.

Some tips:


To explain the Clutch Claw there's two main things you can do with it as explained in the Clutch Claw tutorial quest:

-You either do your standard attack when you claw onto a monster. The primary purpose of this is "Tenderising" monster parts, which makes that monster part more vunerable to damage for a while. "Light" weapons like Longsword require two hits on the same part to tenderise it, but produce Slinger Ammo when they use their tenderising attack, "Heavy" weapons like Hammer are incapable of that but tenderise in a single hit.

-You do a Slinger Burst while attached to the monster's head (requires slinger ammo though), which sends it running, if you slam it into a wall, off a cliff, or while a monster is flying low to the ground, you get a knockdown. This angers monsters quickly and can't be done to enraged monsters, but if you play your cards right, you can essentially get two knockdowns early on against a monster, at the cost of that monster immediately going into ragemode.

So, given that, what you want to be doing is tenderising any parts of the monster you want to break or focus and ideally keep them tenderised while you attack them, and using the slinger burst knockdown when you can to get more quality time with the monster to damage it.


You'll also find yourself slowly getting better hunt times as you get better and better with your weapontype. For Longsword, that means getting your Spirit Gauge to max quickly (using Foresight Slashes and the special sheath Iai Slashes), and alternating between getting your gauge to the maximum red level, getting a massive Helm Breaker hit off, and repeating. (learning to incorporate Fade Slashes into your combo loops is also a big hurdle for LS) Can't claim to know how deep in that process you are, though.


In Master Rank the game also puts a bigger expectation on you to know how to construct builds well. You do not need loads of DPS skills or anything, you can play a pretty unoptimised build and still get good hunt times, but you generally can't get by off random stuff as well as you could in High Rank and certainly not Low Rank. Generally speaking getting your Affinity rate to 100% is your biggest priority (generally through Crit Eye and/or Weakness Exploit) which'll make a pretty nice difference. From there, other skills that indirectly help you damage monsters, or damage skills like Agitator/Attack Boost, stuff like Handicraft to help keep your sharpness high/reach new sharpness levels, can help a lot.

With 45 hours your Decorations will probably be quite lacking so you might struggle with stuff like that, I would recommend using the Steamworks while the current festival's still ongoing, as the Melding Tickets rewarded from that will help a bunch in getting Decorations that'll help you out there.
RIOT|Stalkermaster Feb 10, 2020 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by iNol iGunggung:

True, I personally always felt they (G rank) have too much HP for the progression proper weapons (MHGU, MHW). Tho the fact that monsters move to different room every few minutes does help. Single room, nonstop fight like Arena sucks big time. I have grown to despise the event Barioth quest. Always in that very same room for 10+ minutes. Would be much difference if location is in Hoarfrost Reach, at least I will fight in 3 different rooms there.
Recently I was replaying MHFU (Freedom unite) and my gosh the quests in that game compared to this is night and day. The Double GRank Black diablos and Gravios quests were brutal
Xeroze Feb 10, 2020 @ 10:33pm 
Originally posted by RIOT|Stalkermaster:
Originally posted by iNol iGunggung:

True, I personally always felt they (G rank) have too much HP for the progression proper weapons (MHGU, MHW). Tho the fact that monsters move to different room every few minutes does help. Single room, nonstop fight like Arena sucks big time. I have grown to despise the event Barioth quest. Always in that very same room for 10+ minutes. Would be much difference if location is in Hoarfrost Reach, at least I will fight in 3 different rooms there.
Recently I was replaying MHFU (Freedom unite) and my gosh the quests in that game compared to this is night and day. The Double GRank Black diablos and Gravios quests were brutal

Issue with mhfu is that there is no single player hp/stagger values for the monsters in g rank, so effectively everything is going to take much longer compared to world. Learning to focus on weak spots is literally a necessity.
Nauct Feb 10, 2020 @ 11:04pm 
Buff yourself with Demondrug at the beginning of a fight and everytime you die. Buff yourself with Might Seed and Demon Powder every few minutes. These are sustainable buffs, there are better ones, but this is what I go with 99% of the time.

You'll want to get 100% crit. You can do that with Critical Eye, Weakness Exploit, and either some affinity on your weapon or something like 4 levels or attack and 1 of agitator. (You also want at least one level of crit boost, at first it'll probably be hard to get all 3 levels)

You'll want to use the clutch claw to weaken a part of a monster and then you'll have 100% crit on that spot with the above mentioned. When the monster is not enraged (yellow eye on map) you'll want to clutch onto his head, turn him with claw attack, then slinger burst him into a wall for a knockdown.

Besides that it's leaning the monsters attack patterns so you can have the most uptime on attacking. If you use the longsword you'll want to figure out when you can do the parry.

While I was doing the story my kill times were 20-30 minutes, now they're sub 10, maybe 15 for an elder dragon. I felt your pain, it gets a lot better with a good build and you know how to fight the monsters. Using the clutch claw properly makes you so much more effective
Xavr0k Feb 10, 2020 @ 11:36pm 
Get 2 Bazelgeuse talons from HR Bazelgeuse. Buy the 2x powercharm and 2x armorcharm from the vendor. Go to the crafting menu and combine 1 of each charm with a talon to create powertalon/armortalon. Keep all 4 items in your bags on a hunt for a permanent attack/defense boost.

Demondrug/Mega Demondrug give an attack boost until you die but don't stack with each other.

Might Seed/Demon Powder stack with each other and Demondrug and each give a 3 minute attack boost.

Might pill gives a large attack boost that only lasts 20 seconds and overrides the might seed buff so is probably only worthwhile if you know the monster is about to be trapped/tripped and you already have the weapon sheathed and are currently unable to attack. I wouldn't bother with it.

A more optomized set will up your damage, so maybe try an armor set search like https://honeyhunterworld.com/mhwbi/ or google sets for your weapon of choice.

Apart from that it's just about learning the monsters patterns to stay on it and exploit every opportunity to attack.
RIOT|Stalkermaster Feb 10, 2020 @ 11:36pm 
Originally posted by Xeroze:
Originally posted by RIOT|Stalkermaster:
Recently I was replaying MHFU (Freedom unite) and my gosh the quests in that game compared to this is night and day. The Double GRank Black diablos and Gravios quests were brutal

Issue with mhfu is that there is no single player hp/stagger values for the monsters in g rank, so effectively everything is going to take much longer compared to world. Learning to focus on weak spots is literally a necessity.
Yeah I know cause ive finished it before. Its just going back to it after world to see the differences in design philosophy in terms of monster and quests
[Evil Inc.]Drakkon Feb 11, 2020 @ 12:15am 
Welcome new hunter!

1.Don't fear failing!

I know it sucks to spend a lot of time on something and then lose in the end, but you need to practice.

2. Observe the monsters and learn their attack and movement patterns!

This is the difference between losing, winning and WINNING QUICKLY! Take your time to observe how monsters move, their spacing and overall hitboxes.

3. Learn monster hit zone values or HZV's. Think of them as what spots on the monster to attack and which to avoid. A lot of monsters weakspot is their face but that isn't always the case.

4. Learn your weapons combos and their timings!
This is the difference between you getting that big damage off without eating dirt, and carting. Don't be afraid to go into practice mode.

5.GATHER, GATHER, GATHER!
Mine ore, hunt small monsters for their materials and pick up bugs! All of these things are used to craft useful items.

6. Use multiple weapons in practice and find what you like and what you're comfortable with!
There's lots of weapon types in this game and despite what some players will tell you they are all useful and have their effects that can benefit a party though some are more effective than others.

7. With the addition of iceborne, learn to use your clutch claw effectively.
With this you can create temporary weakspots on the monster, cause it to flinch and stun it and sometimes force it to drop slinger ammo as well as using it as a mobility tool. It's great for closing the gap quickly but remember not to grapple too much as it's not safe on an enraged monster.

8.Keep spares on you to create more items. Learning takes time and can be tough. Out of potions? bring some herbs along to create more on the fly! this can be done with many items to keep your hunt going rather than having to fly back to camp to restock.

9.Learn your weapon placing when in a party for maximum effectiveness and so you don't hit your fellow hunters.

Every weapon has a maximum effective zone on the monster. Example. if you have a hammer or a greatsword hunter in your party, let them have the head while you focus on a different area. Have a longsword? Cut the tail and then focus on the feet to trip the monster! Every weapon has a different placing, take your time to learn them

10. TRAPS! Useful for not only capturing monsters thus ending the hunt faster and safely but they can be used in a pinch to create a small opening of which you can use to attack but beware that some monsters can destroy certain traps and some are outright immune to them.

Good luck and keep at it!

Cheers!
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