Endgame-ish equip useless in iceborne?

[Maleklum]

I am not one of those veteran players with 200+ HR for sure, but i finished the vanilla content and i got to MR 65ish, done KT a few times enough to have almost every weapon he drops, and crafted a lot f armors from the game, i currently use the KT armor too and one of the bows from it, as i like to main bow, but i simply suck ass in any of the new MR missions.
Is KT equip just useless somehow?i thought it was good before Iceborne.
Any starting equip suggestions?

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Maleklum:

I am not one of those veteran players with 200+ HR for sure, but i finished the vanilla content and i got to MR 65ish, done KT a few times enough to have almost every weapon he drops, and crafted a lot f armors from the game, i currently use the KT armor too and one of the bows from it, as i like to main bow, but i simply suck ♥♥♥ in any of the new MR missions.
Is KT equip just useless somehow?i thought it was good before Iceborne.
Any starting equip suggestions?

KT is vanilla end game, not IB endgame.

[Kent]

All high rank armors become obsolete in master rank. Even MR Jagras set has better defense than fully upgraded HR armors. As a compromise, you can try mixing HR and MR to get those essential skills.

[Unit076]

It's fine for Iceborne's really early game. I used KT R6 Gunlance until making an MR Anjanath Gunlance.
Use the Plunderblade/mining and keep Returning from Quest to collect early MR armor materials if you find it a bit too hard. The defense value of even the basic MR armor is crazy compared to HR.

[BoyArmed]

yeah man, honestly there's a trick to get weapons early. just after you get to the first monster (Beotodus) leave the expedition and just mine for pure crystals in the master rank optional quests. youll be able to make rare 9 iron weapons that will help a ton. getting bones also helps for armor. I believe the defender weapons can be upgraded as well to Rare 9

[StormhawkV]

KT is HR content. Her stuff is ok for the IB story, but insufficient for IB endgame. Since you main bow look for the MR versions of the Kadachi, Legiana and Vaal bow, as well as the bows of the new IB monsters Glavenus and Coral Pukei.

[Zero Hour 17]

Your priority is to craft an MR weapon ASAP. Early MR weapons do more damage than the best HR weapons. I can't give a recommendation for Bow as I don't really play it, but any MR bow should outdamage whatever you have.

Armor is less of a priority, at least at the start as skills matter. I used Draken up until Velkhana as I wasn't getting one shot yet. Upgrade if you're carting every fight as MR armor has a lot more defense.

Though it may not just be gear that is giving you a problem. MR monsters are a lot more aggressive, especially the new ones. I don't have enough info to say.

Also are you using the clutch claw?

[lexilogo]

Originally posted by BoyArmed:

yeah man, honestly there's a trick to get weapons early. just after you get to the first monster (Beotodus) leave the expedition and just mine for pure crystals in the master rank optional quests. youll be able to make rare 9 iron weapons that will help a ton. getting bones also helps for armor. I believe the defender weapons can be upgraded as well to Rare 9

Defender weapons have no MR counterpart, they're just for Low/High Rank and are thus outpaced by Iceborne's weapons. You also don't need purecrystals for R9 metal weapons if you upgrade them from their HR counterparts instead of forging them outright.


Anyway, MR works like the transition from LR to HR, so you want to be replacing your HR equipment ASAP once you find a replacement that suits you. You are now once again at the bottom of the food chain, so you'll have to accept getting your ass kicked early to some extent.

You'll be able to replace that HR armor with far superior MR equivalents, which you should do ASAP (hunt easy MR monsters like great jagras or kulu for more options in armorsets) and then you can get to working your way back to the top.

[TyresTyco]

You are playing bow. Which is all about element. You aren't specific enough. What bow against what? Do you expect high dmg with bow if you don't match the element weakness, huh?

[Maleklum]

I ended up making the full bone alpha set and the MR bow with thunder from the smithy, let's see how it goes

[Maleklum]

Originally posted by NaliWarcow:

Originally posted by Maleklum:

I am not one of those veteran players with 200+ HR for sure, but i finished the vanilla content and i got to MR 65ish, done KT a few times enough to have almost every weapon he drops, and crafted a lot f armors from the game, i currently use the KT armor too and one of the bows from it, as i like to main bow, but i simply suck ♥♥♥ in any of the new MR missions.
Is KT equip just useless somehow?i thought it was good before Iceborne.
Any starting equip suggestions?

KT is vanilla end game, not IB endgame.

I never mentioned IB endgame, as i have clearly stated i have a hard time even starting it.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Maleklum:

Originally posted by NaliWarcow:

KT is vanilla end game, not IB endgame.

I never mentioned IB endgame, as i have clearly stated i have a hard time even starting it.

Litterally anything thats creatable in MR is better then KT.... lol

What you need, health regen?

[CrAZYVIC.]

Giving you a "Solid question".

If you could Solo Arch-Tempered elder dragons with 475 defense master rank will be a total joke for you probably until Very-Very-LATE on the expansion u will swap armors

475 def + buffer kitty + food + attack/def active buffs + attack/def passive buffs will put you on 575-600 defense having your favorite Offensive-Pro-Time attack-builds

Sadly the new armors only provide good defense but most of abilities are trash. Only "Noobs" will need 700 defense with mediocre abilities in order of defeat enemies on master rank. People since 1 year ago is soloing arch tempered elder dragons on time attack runs

[ffiazeli]

try MR kulu armor set, HR item (1-8 rarity) won't work anymore on iceborne, try fighting MR jyuratodus with HR item

[Dregora]

It's not endgame anymore.

[Latency Packetloss]

Originally posted by Maleklum:

I am not one of those veteran players with 200+ HR for sure, but i finished the vanilla content and i got to MR 65ish, done KT a few times enough to have almost every weapon he drops, and crafted a lot f armors from the game, i currently use the KT armor too and one of the bows from it, as i like to main bow, but i simply suck ♥♥♥ in any of the new MR missions.
Is KT equip just useless somehow?i thought it was good before Iceborne.
Any starting equip suggestions?

I soloed the entire IB campaign in behemoth armor and wyvern ignition... Mostly because I had health augment and you can't replace master's touch until MR Teostra. Not having to pot or sharpen was a convenience I didn't want to part with...

It was roughly equivalent to making every MR encounter into tempered/arch-tempered and I actually regret doing this because I could have saved a lot of time if I had upgraded earlier. Shara Ishvalda in particular was a huge cart-fest since I couldn't really survive any of her attacks in HR gear. Took me way too long.

So no, I don't think HR equipment is useless in Iceborne, you can definitely still kill monsters. But you will make the game much more difficult and less forgiving. In the same way, it's entirely possible to defeat Xeno in LR gear too... But why?