What's the best general use Switch-Axe to build towards?

[PossessingSpirit09]

I have the Zorah Magdaros CB right now, which while complicated to use, I've grown to enjoy using - much to my teammate's dismay.

I was waiting till I had enough materials to craft a better Switchaxe, but I only had a fire element one, which I heard wasn't that good. So now I'm lost...

Any recommendations and builds would be nice.

[lexilogo]

Goodness gracious, your teammates are still being really picky. You might have less DPS with a weapon you're not that good at using but to be frank as long as you're not carting often, and you're not playing something like Kulve or Behemoth where DPS really matters, I really don't think people should care.

Anyway, to actually answer the question, the Diablos Switch Axe is quite fun but requires a lot of Affinity to counteract the low base Affinity, it's what I personally use a lot of the time.

I would also like to state that if you want to switch weapontypes, often the Metal or Bone one is the best starter choice in absence of better materials. Metal/Bone weapons are generally quite solid and most importantly their materials are very easy to obtain.

[PossessingSpirit09]

lexilogo eredeti hozzászólása:

Goodness gracious, your teammates are still being really picky. You might have less DPS with a weapon you're not that good at using but to be frank as long as you're not carting often, and you're not playing something like Kulve or Behemoth where DPS really matters, I really don't think people should care.

Anyway, to actually answer the question, the Diablos Switch Axe is quite fun but requires a lot of Affinity to counteract the low base Affinity, it's what I personally use a lot of the time.

I would also like to state that if you want to switch weapontypes, often the Metal or Bone one is the best starter choice in absence of better materials. Metal/Bone weapons are generally quite solid and most importantly their materials are very easy to obtain.

OK. The teammates aren't picky. It was just me occasionally tripping them or them me. I'm not dying much or at all, I'm just frustrated that I never get the "titles" for contributing something significant in terms of damage output or parts broken off.

I know the Diablos switchaxe has some of the highest raw, in fact I already have it, but the really low affinity really is annoying me cuz I can't really offset the negative affinity.

[Remi]

ThePacifist09 eredeti hozzászólása:

lexilogo eredeti hozzászólása:

Goodness gracious, your teammates are still being really picky. You might have less DPS with a weapon you're not that good at using but to be frank as long as you're not carting often, and you're not playing something like Kulve or Behemoth where DPS really matters, I really don't think people should care.

Anyway, to actually answer the question, the Diablos Switch Axe is quite fun but requires a lot of Affinity to counteract the low base Affinity, it's what I personally use a lot of the time.

I would also like to state that if you want to switch weapontypes, often the Metal or Bone one is the best starter choice in absence of better materials. Metal/Bone weapons are generally quite solid and most importantly their materials are very easy to obtain.

OK. The teammates aren't picky. It was just me occasionally tripping them or them me. I'm not dying much or at all, I'm just frustrated that I never get the "titles" for contributing something significant in terms of damage output or parts broken off.

I know the Diablos switchaxe has some of the highest raw, in fact I already have it, but the really low affinity really is annoying me cuz I can't really offset the negative affinity.

To get the damage dealer award you need to deal >75% of the monster's HP, whereas bombs, poison, blast etc. count towards the person that placed the bomb/triggered the status, and environmentals count as neutral.
Example: Behemoth has 35000 HP, boulders deal 10% of that, leaving him at 31500 HP. You'd need to deal more than 23625 damage to get the award.

[Penetrator]

I don't use Swaxe much but I find Jho's Swaxe great.

[JPM岩]

Jho and Diablos Sa's are REALLY strong, but need handicraft. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1591169533 I have a Switch Axe guide here.

[lexilogo]

ThePacifist09 eredeti hozzászólása:

OK. The teammates aren't picky. It was just me occasionally tripping them or them me. I'm not dying much or at all, I'm just frustrated that I never get the "titles" for contributing something significant in terms of damage output or parts broken off.

I know the Diablos switchaxe has some of the highest raw, in fact I already have it, but the really low affinity really is annoying me cuz I can't really offset the negative affinity.

Tripping isn't really something that'd change much going from CB to SA, but I understand that it's always annoying. However, the best medicine is just changing how one plays. Even Long Sword users can avoid tripping up other people as long as they and everyone else are in the right positions.

When it comes to the titles they're most often specific things. If Damage Dealer comes up that's a big thing because it means one player was contributing far more proportional DPS than they should be, which can be due to playstyle or build.

For example while using Charge Blade, if you were still figuring out stuff like maintaining shield/swordbuff, how to quickly build phials, and how to quickly and accurately land Super Amped Element Discharges, it's quite easy to fall behind.

But, most of the other titles you shouldn't sweat that much. It doesn't really matter who breaks what parts or so on. As long as you're still able to kill monsters and are having fun, you'll be improving!

As for the Diablos switchaxe, yeah, it is really difficult to offset the negative affinity. I personally use it with Teostra Gamma armor which is super lategame, and all those levels of Crit Eye and Weakness Exploit still don't give it that much affinity.

Anyway, I might as well answer the question more thoroughly after considering Switch Axes a bit more to recommend a few interesting ones that are easy to get, the Jagras and Barroth switch axes.

Jagras Raider provides Exhaust damage which can be used to KO monsters if you discharge into their heads and also exhausts monsters making it a really unique SA

And Barroth Grinder provides paralysis phials which is pretty nice.

Generally speaking, if you're the one paralysing or KOing the monster it's often difficult to feel like you're not pulling your weight in a team, even with lower DPS.

[omegawop]

Start with a great Jagras SA, then build pickle, hunt elder dragons with pickle axe until you can make Empress Axe "Ruin". You can go diablo axe too, once you have enough affinity and handicraft. I find that the Empress Axe is generally better because the life steal stacks with a health augment and makes for easier kills on arch tempered elder dragons.

[JPM岩]

omegawop eredeti hozzászólása:

Start with a great Jagras SA, then build pickle, hunt elder dragons with pickle axe until you can make Empress Axe "Ruin". You can go diablo axe too, once you have enough affinity and handicraft. I find that the Empress Axe is generally better because the life steal stacks with a health augment and makes for easier kills on arch tempered elder dragons.

The health steal on Ruin is really poor. Styx is a better choice.

[Mhblis]

Yeah Jagras is all round great

Then into DevilJho. Its the easiest to get and build for general use SA.

The "Best" two are from KT.

With Jagras you really want to be hitting the head to get the Extra KO damage as well but its great for a team anywhere.
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Honestly I'd say most of your problems is not weapon related.

Either you guys need to start using level one Flinch Free( Brace Jewel) or just learn to position properly.

[IrisMachina]

Remi eredeti hozzászólása:

ThePacifist09 eredeti hozzászólása:

OK. The teammates aren't picky. It was just me occasionally tripping them or them me. I'm not dying much or at all, I'm just frustrated that I never get the "titles" for contributing something significant in terms of damage output or parts broken off.

I know the Diablos switchaxe has some of the highest raw, in fact I already have it, but the really low affinity really is annoying me cuz I can't really offset the negative affinity.

To get the damage dealer award you need to deal >75% of the monster's HP, whereas bombs, poison, blast etc. count towards the person that placed the bomb/triggered the status, and environmentals count as neutral.
Example: Behemoth has 35000 HP, boulders deal 10% of that, leaving him at 31500 HP. You'd need to deal more than 23625 damage to get the award.

the only times i get damage dealer is when my teammates aren't experienced enough and run around panicing more than actually attacking the monster. don't worry about titles after clearing a hunt. it means nothing. if 4 players are all contributing equally in a hunt around maybe 20-30% damage per player, the only rewards you'll see are tool usage, buffs etc.. it is actually bad to see damage dealer title. seeing that title means one person doing all the work and rest aren't contributing much. as for general use switchaxe, jho swaxe and the luna ruin one practically covers all ground.

https://imgur.com/gallery/pRw5f9g
heres a bunch swaxe builds taken from this reddit link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/blbmjc/pcconsole_the_ultimate_meta_build_compilation/

hopefully this should give you an idea on what to skills to get on your weapon as well as provide you with a reference on other weapons if you ever take an interest in them. if you can't make those yet, do not worry. just use the best ones you can make and craft those recommended ones when you unlock them.

[JPM岩]

Mhblis eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah Jagras is all round great

Then into DevilJho. Its the easiest to get and build for general use SA.

The "Best" two are from KT.

With Jagras you really want to be hitting the head to get the Extra KO damage as well but its great for a team anywhere.
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Honestly I'd say most of your problems is not weapon related.

Either you guys need to start using level one Flinch Free( Brace Jewel) or just learn to position properly.

Jagras is good for baby's first SA, but gets quickly outdone, like by Barroth SA; exhaust is not powerful enough in World (or IB) to be worth using over power phial, and is only good for getting a better SA