Why do people hate Gunlances so much?

[PossessingSpirit09]

I used to be a strict Gunlance main (I'm a newbie though), but the buddies I was playing with suggested I switch to something else because in their words: "Nobody wants a Gunlance user in their team."

Now I'm a Switch Axe user. but I still miss the defence and explosions of the gunlance

[cklambo]

HERESY!

[langnao]

GL is awesome esp against kushala. While others r scrambling away from kushala wind blast, u r blasting away with ur GL. Just control the direction of ur Wyvern's Fire and dont blast ur teammate and everything will be fine.

[Xilo The Odd]

i'll be using it even more in iceborne with the new features.

Long might actually have a good use with the sticky bomb thing it can do now. hit a flier in the foot or tail with it, get twice the bang per shot.

[Remi]

It's pretty ez mode in IB, Long shelling being overpowered and only needing three cheap damage skills, rest can go into qol without losing any damage.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Remi님이 먼저 게시:

It's pretty ez mode in IB, Long shelling being overpowered and only needing three cheap damage skills, rest can go into qol without losing any damage.

Not really, Gunlance is to slow dps with all the fast moving monsters.

[Kiwimaru]

GL is like the zero fks given weapon. Shelling is not affected by monster's armor and you can guard almost anything if augmented for it. Sure its not max deeps playstyle but still better then nothing.

[Remi]

NaliWarcow님이 먼저 게시:

Remi님이 먼저 게시:

It's pretty ez mode in IB, Long shelling being overpowered and only needing three cheap damage skills, rest can go into qol without losing any damage.

Not really, Gunlance is to slow dps with all the fast moving monsters.

Except Long shelling has high range, staggers and hitzone independent damage while still being incredibly safe. Capcom didn't think about the possibility that adding Artillery 5, increasing charged shot's firing speed and adding the Wyrmstake Blast would turn GL into actual brain dead mode.

[lexilogo]

It's like Light Bowgun in that some people have just gotten it into their heads that the weapon's bad because I guess not many people use it?

Gunlance is solid. Having a Lance user on the team at all can be quite valuable for constantly absorbing monster attacks and attacking points on the monster's body other teammates will be avoiding or unable to reach, Gunlance especially can just attack wherever it damn well pleases.

Seriously, the people who should've gotten the hell out of the team with that attitude are the people who think your weapon preferences aren't valid. While MHW is not perfectly balanced, each weapon is viable enough that no weapon type will make you a burden to the group.

[Novaren]

Behold the TRIGGERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVqlrx2NfQ

[Djeeta]

Its probably just your friends.
GL is the most safe + good performance in the game.
(if you are skilled than average CB is more fun + more rewarding, just before Iceborn though)
It have no problem VS any monsters at all, you just need to use the correct Shell type.
I can GL solo AT Nerg + No potions/camp break with Wide shell type under 7 minutes, and its not even a speed run or try hard run, just a walking in the park.

And as ppl said, in Iceborn we are getting Artillery 5, while those META bois crying over crit and WE, GL doesnt really care about those and still do good overall.

No aim + brainless 1 2 mode : Wide Shell
Normal GL users : Long Shell
No mercy mode : Normal Shell + Royal Burst
And GL dont care how tough of the monsters skin are, we dont bounce and with the right build/Whetfish Fin we rarely sharpening weapon.
Let me add one last thing, Evade extender range of GL is the best in the game, not too short not too long, unlike Bow and DB.

[DaBa]

Your friend sounds like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. There's nothing wrong with any weapon in the game, if you know how to pull your weight you can play whatever you want. IF you can pull your weight. If you're going to spend 90% of the hunt behind your shield then yeah, nobody wants that type of GL user on their team.

[DaBa]

Satori님이 먼저 게시:

And as ppl said, in Iceborn we are getting Artillery 5, while those META bois crying over crit and WE, GL doesnt really care about those and still do good overall.

No aim + brainless 1 2 mode : Wide Shell
Normal GL users : Long Shell
No mercy mode : Normal Shell + Royal Burst
And GL dont care how tough of the monsters skin are, we dont bounce and with the right build/Whetfish Fin we rarely sharpening weapon.
Let me add one last thing, Evade extender range of GL is the best in the game, not too short not too long, unlike Bow and DB.

That's actually not true, Art 5 will never be meta because it requires you to sacrifice too many good skills, Zorah MR armor sucks. It's really fun and is still effective, 70% off wyvern fire cooldown and 50% increase on shelling is a blast, literally. But Meta? No way. Maximum affinity and crit boost is still meta, more than ever before even because we can now tenderize monsters with a clutch claw which means even more deeps if using normal attacks instead of shelling. And that's the case even for impact Charge Blade, which relied on phial damage way more than GL relied on shelling.

But, don't get me wrong, I will play Art 5 gunlance over a meta build every time. It's just more fun and true to the weapon itself. It's a GUNlance after all. More explosions is always good.

[Remi]

DaBa님이 먼저 게시:

Satori님이 먼저 게시:

And as ppl said, in Iceborn we are getting Artillery 5, while those META bois crying over crit and WE, GL doesnt really care about those and still do good overall.

No aim + brainless 1 2 mode : Wide Shell
Normal GL users : Long Shell
No mercy mode : Normal Shell + Royal Burst
And GL dont care how tough of the monsters skin are, we dont bounce and with the right build/Whetfish Fin we rarely sharpening weapon.
Let me add one last thing, Evade extender range of GL is the best in the game, not too short not too long, unlike Bow and DB.

That's actually not true, Art 5 will never be meta because it requires you to sacrifice too many good skills, Zorah MR armor sucks. It's really fun and is still effective, 70% off wyvern fire cooldown and 50% increase on shelling is a blast, literally. But Meta? No way. Maximum affinity and crit boost is still meta, more than ever before even because we can now tenderize monsters with a clutch claw which means even more deeps if using normal attacks instead of shelling. And that's the case even for impact Charge Blade, which relied on phial damage way more than GL relied on shelling.

But, don't get me wrong, I will play Art 5 gunlance over a meta build every time. It's just more fun and true to the weapon itself. It's a GUNlance after all. More explosions is always good.

CB never relied on phial damage, even in HR physical damage was >75% of your entire damage.
People just had this leddit misconception that "but phials cant crit so crit is completely useless on CB" because they're mouthbreathing brainlets.

[Djeeta]

DaBa님이 먼저 게시:

That's actually not true, Art 5 will never be meta because it requires you to sacrifice too many good skills, Zorah MR armor sucks. It's really fun and is still effective, 70% off wyvern fire cooldown and 50% increase on shelling is a blast, literally. But Meta? No way. Maximum affinity and crit boost is still meta, more than ever before even because we can now tenderize monsters with a clutch claw which means even more deeps if using normal attacks instead of shelling. And that's the case even for impact Charge Blade, which relied on phial damage way more than GL relied on shelling.

But, don't get me wrong, I will play Art 5 gunlance over a meta build every time. It's just more fun and true to the weapon itself. It's a GUNlance after all. More explosions is always good.

Yes Way!
Like in this time before Iceborn(PC) people are overhyped with longsword and Dragoon armor for maximum crit and sharpness.
(Thankfully we have NPC that telling which weapon is popular)
While those overhyped build were never once came close to Bow elemental.
And what is the real 2nd best weapon before Iceborn? CB Impact Phial + with a proper use it can even be on pair with Cluster bomb.

The only problems is, its hard to find a good user and there is no different on Iceborn.

[DaBa]

Remi님이 먼저 게시:

DaBa님이 먼저 게시:

That's actually not true, Art 5 will never be meta because it requires you to sacrifice too many good skills, Zorah MR armor sucks. It's really fun and is still effective, 70% off wyvern fire cooldown and 50% increase on shelling is a blast, literally. But Meta? No way. Maximum affinity and crit boost is still meta, more than ever before even because we can now tenderize monsters with a clutch claw which means even more deeps if using normal attacks instead of shelling. And that's the case even for impact Charge Blade, which relied on phial damage way more than GL relied on shelling.

But, don't get me wrong, I will play Art 5 gunlance over a meta build every time. It's just more fun and true to the weapon itself. It's a GUNlance after all. More explosions is always good.

CB never relied on phial damage, even in HR physical damage was >75% of your entire damage.
People just had this leddit misconception that "but phials cant crit so crit is completely useless on CB" because they're mouthbreathing brainlets.

I meant that phial damage was more important for CB than it was for GL. I never said it was the most important part of it. And it is true, because the most efficient playstyle is the SAED spam, which dealt a ton of phial damage. Way more in fact than in was the case with GL which was all about the slap. But even though phials were such a big part, we still run crit sets because physical damage was the biggest component, it always will be. Even more now, because of the clutch claw mechanics + the addition of savage axe Phial damage is no longer as big of a part of CB playstyle as it used to be. People are still experimenting, but Savage axe seems to be the DPS king now if used against stationary target.

And that's what I was getting at. Art 5 is not meta for CB, nor is it meta for GL. I will be very surprised if somebody figures out a meta build that utilizes Art 5 for either of them.