Bots in online match absolutely overpowered

[slaptheegg]

Just had a game where what I think were some bots added to the lobby to fill in space, this was an online FFA and at the beginning of every round, I or a friend would get absolutely ruined. Targeted shots that never miss like aimbot. This had to be bots on crack or cheating players. If it's bots, then turn that difficulty down for the love of god. if I have every match like that from herein then I'm really not interested in this anymore and will be a huge shame as you stood absolutely no chance whatsoever.

[brettpennings]

Hey! I'm sorry to hear you're having a less-than-optimal experience with the skill-based matchmaking. I took a look at your match history, and it looks like you won your first 4 games, and placed 3rd in your most recent game, in which the top-scoring player was a middle-of-the-road bot (OIandese). I can acknowledge that some of the higher level bots can be aggravating to play against, but that particular bot has 40% accuracy and shouldn't be landing every shot unless there's a bug I'm not aware of. Regardless, the skill-based matchmaker tracks how you perform, and adjusts the difficulty of who you play against, both bots and players alike. It might be important to note that your first 5 games put an artificial handicap on your MMR that is slowly lifted, so the result may be that your MMR is a bit inflated because you've only won your matches so far. As you play more, it should equalize and become more enjoyable. The goal of any matchmaker is to produce a 50% winrate to keep players' MMR from running away in either direction, however, if you just want to play winning matches, I would recommend setting up a party only match with your friend and explicitly setting the bot difficulty, as that does not affect your MMR.

Hope that helps!
Brett

[slaptheegg]

I wasn't expecting a detailed reply but am really glad you did so firstly, huge props for that, good community engagement!

I definitely don't want to just win matches, I agree that would become quite dull quite quickly. I can appreciate there is some SBMM in there of course. What didn't feel right about it was the instant lock-on as soon as the match begins and I got bounced around from bot to bot and within 10 seconds I've lost 75% of my health in what I would essentially classify as a permastun. The sudden MMR inflation I understand if someone has mostly just won. I might be a minority of people here who found it frustrating, possibly it would be worth adding a disclaimer in the game of how the MMR works and it will balance out? I don't know whether you have access to replays but if you do, I would encourage you to look at the beginning of some matches. In particular, on some maps where it's very close quarters, it was the beginning of the rounds which was the most frustrating being targeted for 10 seconds with what feels like 100% aim.

Thankyou again for your response, I will continue to play and see how the MMR works itself out.

[brettpennings]

Yeah, absolutely! I definitely understand your frustration. I don't have access to replays (I wish I had time to build a system like that though!), so I'll take your word for how it went. I hope the MMR balances out for you, and your matches are close and fun :)

It's also important to note that MMR only adjusts when you complete a match. We've had issues in the past with people quitting out of losing matches and their MMR would only stay the same or go up on wins, creating a horrible feedback loop of harder and harder matches that they would leave. It doesn't look like you did that at all, so you should be good though!

[slaptheegg]

Thank you for the very open and honest information you have been giving, rare to find that. I played some more games and I found that the MMR balanced out a little more immediately. I will be continuing to play. I have however noticed an odd bug, sometimes when I launch the game it struggles with FPS. Have found it fluctuating between 40 and 60 fps but at other times it's absolutely fine at 120 fps.

[Hugopeo]

i play with friends in 3v3 online ! we are realy good and we explode bots lvl10 in couch games... but online we find often player who play realy weird... like if are god bots or like if they have overlay or kind of stuf for predict things... we notice some opponents NEVER recast the liana spells (green movement spell) even if it would save them from death ! suspect XD

[Hugopeo]

again... game full of bots... not realy good but no fun ! (they never reactivate the liana speel)