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B[A]lto 2013 年 6 月 27 日 上午 10:09
Zeus OP or how to counter him?
So anyone else think Zeus is a tad OP? Specificially the ult. I was just in a coop match with hard bots, Zeus and Sand King were bot and we were dire, I was Bounty Hunter and Pudge went with me bot. Pudge kept dying and feeding. We ended up with a kind of fed Zeus, I would have had no problem staying in lane if it weren't for Sand King stunning me and then Zeus slapping me three times promptly killing me. Later on in the game his ult took down half my HP. That's ridiculous. And the worst part is that means I can be going back to fountain with less than half my HP left and Zeus can shoot it off at a lucky time killing me in front of it or WHILE HEALING even if I had low enough. That's not right. Now of course I know I'll get flamed for saying a hero's OP, but if he's not OP then how should I counter him? His ult it seems really needs nerfing. Even when he's not fed I think this. He's one of my most hated heroes. His ult is my most hated ult. It's ridiculous. No hero should be able to take down half my HP when I'm nowhere near them.
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Mield♥ 2013 年 6 月 28 日 下午 1:12 
From what I know for Zeus, the guy is insanely annoying early game but after a while he does become useless IF his team doesn't react to what he does, keep in mind Zeus's ult helps a lot if they have another AOE ult/skill like warlock, Death Proph, SandKing, Tide, so do keep an eye out for those, like most said, getting a pipe would help a lot if you're not the carry. Now for ganking zeus, keep in mind even though he has all those nukes, he needs insane mana regen to keep doing that, early game he lacks it badly, and his also insanely squishy and slow, so you Veno, lion, Bristle, etc, I highly suggest Lion or Invoker, lion due to his spam on Q and E stealing mana, Invoker with his HP regen with Q and high damage with E/spells Or simply get Nyx, if timed right you can nuke counter him with E
B[A]lto 2013 年 6 月 28 日 下午 1:40 
Nothing but the item suggestions were repetitions. :) Ty for the helpful information last three posters.
Pudge, Drow, Huskar, Riki, Bloodseeker, Phantom Lancer and now Zeus... I have yet to see a thread about Puck being OP :derp:
B[A]lto 2013 年 6 月 28 日 下午 2:54 
Puck is so freaking OP. How about instead of complaining about me mentioning his ult is OP when not properly countered you tell me how to counter? You're not helping anyone by saying "zomg he's not op noob."
Un_der_score 2013 年 6 月 28 日 下午 3:49 
Bkb's destroy puck in the mid game. But he is a great mid and very hard to beat. He has the right level of talent/reward when you play him. He is strong, but not op.

But once people get their mid and late game items he becomes much less viable. Unless he has managed to get a sheepstick or what have you.

If his team and him can control the map mid game and refuse that farm, then it all works out great. If Puck does well, but the game is back and forth for 30 minutes, then he will fall off the radar because of those bkb's, stat items, and magic resistence
最后由 Un_der_score 编辑于; 2013 年 6 月 28 日 下午 3:53
Lama Glama 2013 年 6 月 28 日 下午 4:19 
Magic wand against him in lane is amazing. Every time he casts a spell within 1200 range(same as xp range) you get a charge, up to 15, each one being worth 15 hp and mana when used. Zeus has super low base damage and has to spam his chain lightning to get last hits in most cases, so you'll never be low on charges around him. Otherwise, items that give you hp, str, or magic restistance, such as a vitality booster, treads, or hood can increase your survivability against him.
Shiro 2014 年 10 月 1 日 下午 6:56 
zues is not that hard to counter no hero specifically counters him but here is how
silenses he cant do ♥♥♥♥ if he is silensed
mana burn needs a lot of mana to cast spells
magic resist just get a cloak and you reduce all his damage by 15% more or less for a mear 550 gold
really tanky heros ya he can eventualy kill them if they sit still for 5 minuets his passive deals massive amounts of dmg when you are at full that means that if you have a lot of hp he cant kill you
pipe for the team will make him useless
if you want heros to counter him
huscar cant kill him too much magic resist
nyx nyx nyx zues has a low hp pool so vendeta impale mana burn carapas right click he is dead
anti mage need I go on
od steals all of his int so he can't cast spells
so in short buy magic resist and hp and he can't do ♥♥♥♥ that or silense him same thing
B[A]lto 2014 年 10 月 1 日 下午 7:11 
Wow way to reply to a year old post. LOL. I'll delete this now. Zeus is definitely not OP. I was so n00b then. Kappa.
最后由 B[A]lto 编辑于; 2014 年 10 月 1 日 下午 7:11
pannicatack 2014 年 10 月 1 日 下午 7:23 
引用自 Hibari
zues is not that hard to counter no hero specifically counters him but here is how
silenses he cant do ♥♥♥♥ if he is silensed
mana burn needs a lot of mana to cast spells
magic resist just get a cloak and you reduce all his damage by 15% more or less for a mear 550 gold
really tanky heros ya he can eventualy kill them if they sit still for 5 minuets his passive deals massive amounts of dmg when you are at full that means that if you have a lot of hp he cant kill you
pipe for the team will make him useless
if you want heros to counter him
huscar cant kill him too much magic resist
nyx nyx nyx zues has a low hp pool so vendeta impale mana burn carapas right click he is dead
anti mage need I go on
od steals all of his int so he can't cast spells
so in short buy magic resist and hp and he can't do ♥♥♥♥ that or silense him same thing
Why did you bump up a year-dead thread?
B[A]lto 2014 年 10 月 1 日 下午 7:30 
Nevermind I can't delete it... Shame. See noobs, you will eventually realize not all heroes are OP. Me and my friends are the proof. :P
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