How LoL copied Dota

[Tim Apple]

Hi guys I do not mean to start a comment war but I feel unjust for dota players,both 1 and 2.
I recently tried LoL to see what it is like but I find that many of their champions and their skills are exactly the same as dota's.
Here is the list.
LoL:Dota
Ashe:Drow Ranger
Corki:Gyrocopter
Elsie(or smth):Broodmother
And there are many more, these are a few direct copies and there are many more.
Now skills.
Karthus ult:Zeus ult
Ashe Q:Drow Q
Fiora ult:Juggernaut ult
Caitlyn Ult:Sniper ult
And there are many more.I feel that the devs of LoL took the skills of dota heroes, put them in a bingo machine and just make a "champion" of what ever that comes out.
Go do some research and tell me how u feel about this.

[Anthropodlogist]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von King Gosu-Man:

LoL did try and do something different, even if it is a rehash or rearranging of the DotA model. As was mentioned before, HoN was basically a direct, blatant cash-in of DotA All-Stars. I will say that LoL does have different game modes/maps, which is one of the few things that actually does set it apart.

One of the biggest things for me is that the champions don't have the same personality or depth that DotA's heroes do. To be fair, there are manual taunt/emote commands I haven't tried, but they lack the character and dialogue that DotA heroes possess. Also, no custom announcers. These last two things are probably what I notice most, actually.

Ironically most MOBAs now adays are more similar to LoL than anything else, LoL tried to do somehting new and it paid off, yet I hate the very idea of free rotation and out of game skill trees and stat boosting items.
LoL does have better lore though il give it that, DotA's lore is pretty bad, but ironically by having a more flushed out lore it makes the game make less sense as you could have a hero fighting against their best friend and with someone who their lives goal is to kill.

[k3]

Because of nups

[Dakoria]

isn't LoL based on the style DotA from WoW as a way to continue the legacy?

[Jimmy Hunter]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Don't Mess With El Llama:

isn't LoL based on the style DotA from WoW as a way to continue the legacy?

Warcraft 3, not WoW. And LoL badly ripped off Dota, along with every other DotA clone out there.

[Unlucky_Cock]

That's way they called this game a MOBA because all your doing is point and clicking your Champion from point A to point B.

[Mike]

I'm not reading through the 100 something comments here, but does no one realize that the original dev for LoL was who also created Dota Allstars and worked with Icefrog on Dota 1? Of course there are a LOT of similarities, LoL essentially originated from the original Dota mod.

[ariba]

Well yea, we all know they copied WC3 Dota.

[Fino]

Wait how is this thread still going?
Anyways,maybe its been done before,but as someone that actually played LoL before i feel the need to do this:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Blue Lemonade:

I recently tried LoL to see what it is like but I find that many of their champions and their skills are exactly the same as dota's.
Here is the list.
LoL:Dota
Ashe:Drow Ranger
Corki:Gyrocopter
Elsie(or smth):Broodmother
And there are many more, these are a few direct copies and there are many more.
Now skills.
Karthus ult:Zeus ult
Ashe Q:Drow Q
Fiora ult:Juggernaut ult
Caitlyn Ult:Sniper ult

No,they arent.
Ashe is completelly different from Drow Ranger,with only one ability being similar.
Corki is completelly different from Gyrocopter,all of his abilities are different.
Elise is completelly different from Broodmother,not only ability wise,but role wise.
The only thing that Karthus ult has in similar with Zeus one is that it does global damage,but if thats what it takes then Nature profit's one is also a copy of Zeus.Karthus Ult is channeled for 3 seconds and provides no true sight.
Ashe Q,while indeed very similar to Drow's Q,is a much lower slow at higher levels,it also has no aditional effect on creeps.
Fiora's ult doesnt let her attack mid slashes at all,and she is still targetable and vulnerable during it.
Caitlin's ult can be blocked by enemies other than the target.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Blue Lemonade:

And there are many more.

Go ahead then,bring me a skill that is a direct copy.

[victoryone45]

Both LOL and Dota 2 are based off Dota 1 so there are going to be similarities.

[Deth]

Go play league, best game ever

[Tranki]

hola :D

[( ﾟДﾟ)]

qgrtsx

[Taweret]

No,they arent.
Ashe is completelly different from Drow Ranger,with only one ability being similar.
Corki is completelly different from Gyrocopter,all of his abilities are different.
Elise is completelly different from Broodmother,not only ability wise,but role wise.
The only thing that Karthus ult has in similar with Zeus one is that it does global damage,but if thats what it takes then Nature profit's one is also a copy of Zeus.Karthus Ult is channeled for 3 seconds and provides no true sight.
Ashe Q,while indeed very similar to Drow's Q,is a much lower slow at higher levels,it also has no aditional effect on creeps.
Fiora's ult doesnt let her attack mid slashes at all,and she is still targetable and vulnerable during it.
Caitlin's ult can be blocked by enemies other than the target.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Blue Lemonade:

And there are many more.

Go ahead then,bring me a skill that is a direct copy.

these arent exact copys they changed minor things, but main idea was stolen, for example theyve joined few abilites into one,

ashe volley is copy of amazon diablo 2 multishot, with addition of drow frost arrows.

twisted fate had global teleport like furion before they changed it,

corki phosphorus bomb was working like dota dust of appearance..

rumble ulty is similar to chipper (hon) ulty

nocturne dark lady (hon) ulty

annie golem have immolate like warlock,

no mention sion (which name almost sound like sven) his stun is copy of all dota stuns (wk, venge, sven),

darius have messed axe abilites (also cho'gath have similar ult), etc,

blitzcrank use pudge hook, amumu use clock hook,

kassadin am blink (and his aa was also draining mana if i good remember),

kog use techies suicide xD teemo use techies mines also kait use stunning traps,

garen - jugger blade fury, axe ulty,

hecarim have bara aura

leona dk stun

shen have taunt very similar to axe,

yorick make clone like morph,

skarner batrider ulty,

zielan use outdated dazzle ulty,

kayle use bubble from wow paladin lol,

anivia ofc not copy of phoenix egg,

shaco riki backstab with maybe addition of gondar (cant good remember),

singed alch ulty same with mundo,

gankplank gyro ulty,

vayne and lee sin are copy of diablo 3 monk, demon hunter.

zac passive is copy of one world of warcraft boss phase in raid dragon soul.

veigar is copy of dungeon defenders apprentice...

so basically riot devs are sitting and thinking what to change in dota abilites to make their own...
LoL is stealing from many games ideas not only dota. there is even more but i got bored quickly, call it league of legends rip-offs master list xD

[Fino]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Oblivion comes...:

No,they arent.
Ashe is completelly different from Drow Ranger,with only one ability being similar.
Corki is completelly different from Gyrocopter,all of his abilities are different.
Elise is completelly different from Broodmother,not only ability wise,but role wise.
The only thing that Karthus ult has in similar with Zeus one is that it does global damage,but if thats what it takes then Nature profit's one is also a copy of Zeus.Karthus Ult is channeled for 3 seconds and provides no true sight.
Ashe Q,while indeed very similar to Drow's Q,is a much lower slow at higher levels,it also has no aditional effect on creeps.
Fiora's ult doesnt let her attack mid slashes at all,and she is still targetable and vulnerable during it.
Caitlin's ult can be blocked by enemies other than the target.



Go ahead then,bring me a skill that is a direct copy.

snip

Little abilities in mobas,inculuding dota, are truly original.
Most of the things you listed are called taking inspiration,and others are common mechanics in the genre.
Still doesnt make it direct copies like the OP was saying.

[Raknarocks]

yes LOL is a copy of Dota.
All the LOL's champions are copies of Dta's champions...ALL the champions