I wanna start playing dota

[Hvok]

i did the tutorial and i have an idea of how roles plays and the general of dota but.
is there any hero that reassembles the Ad Twitch from LoL?
i just like the spaceglide 200 apm aspect but rito killed ad twitch
i wanna relive it at least for a moment.
or else i'll have to keep sticking with bio terran in SC2 xdd

[Terente22CmRecords]

viper use poison on atacks, not like the rat but is fun, also be ready for trolls early marches

[P R O P H Y L A X I S]

Bro DO NOT learn the game as a carry or mid first.

Play bot matches to learn support heroes.

Watch guides on youtube.

Learn how to stack and pull. How to ward the enemy pull (offlane mostly) and how to deward your pull (safe lane).

Learn to be a time-wizard and stand ON TOP OF the fountain RIGHT when lotus spawns because you were hiding in the trees like a ninja with ~15s before it spawns (lotus every 3 minute).

Learn to dip and take the narrow bridge to ENEMY wisdom rune at 7 minute. STAND ON TOP OF IT before it spawns. Dont be late or someone will be more on top of it. There are spots to hide almost riiight on top of the rune (far left side of map for left wisdom, and above/right side for right side wisdom rune).

Main thing is working on positioning your hero. Thats genuinely 96% of the 'skill' in this game. Not even exaggerating.

Also there are denies in dota. You cant be that LOL kid who never denies because you never learned. A deny is 50% XP. And if you stack/pull you could deny an entire wave of creeps with a 100% deny because enemy is out of XP range. This means you get your level 2 first, which means you can press your level 2 vs level 1 advantage.. then ride that advantage out and literally win the lane off that if you play tight. Denies matter a lot. Thats why stack/pull is so important to learn.

learn pos 5 and 4 (dont matter what order) FIRST. THEN move to pos 3, then pos 1, then pos 2 (mid) last. DO NOT be the trash player instant picking carry when you couldnt back pack a single potato because you cant farm for ♥♥♥♥ and can barely play the game.

learning a hero with a slow movement speed will encourage you to get better at positioning because if you dont learn that, you get dumpstered. lol.. crystal maiden comes to mind.

Personally Id try to learn witch doctor. buy boots, 2 bracers, then go for his aghs SHARD (the 1400g one). Hes really fun support. Gets a lot of kills. Super good when you learn him. And requires essentially no items at all when played properly. (like a counter ganker OR an initiator who attacks from trees like a ninja)

For hotkeys you need all 4 abilities, prob 1 'sub ability' depending on what heroes you play, and to start at least 3 item hotkeys. You also need your TP scroll (instant teleport scroll) bound. I use mouse 4 (left side button) for TP scroll and mouse 5 for VOIP (push to talk button).

[XycoxZthron X ;)]

Also new crownfall update will come out soon

[P R O P H Y L A X I S]

Originally posted by XycoxZthron X ):

Also new crownfall update will come out soon

how sooon?

[Hvok]

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Bro DO NOT learn the game as a carry or mid first.

Play bot matches to learn support heroes.

Watch guides on youtube.

Learn how to stack and pull. How to ward the enemy pull (offlane mostly) and how to deward your pull (safe lane).

Learn to be a time-wizard and stand ON TOP OF the fountain RIGHT when lotus spawns because you were hiding in the trees like a ninja with ~15s before it spawns (lotus every 3 minute).

Learn to dip and take the narrow bridge to ENEMY wisdom rune at 7 minute. STAND ON TOP OF IT before it spawns. Dont be late or someone will be more on top of it. There are spots to hide almost riiight on top of the rune (far left side of map for left wisdom, and above/right side for right side wisdom rune).

Main thing is working on positioning your hero. Thats genuinely 96% of the 'skill' in this game. Not even exaggerating.

Also there are denies in dota. You cant be that LOL kid who never denies because you never learned. A deny is 50% XP. And if you stack/pull you could deny an entire wave of creeps with a 100% deny because enemy is out of XP range. This means you get your level 2 first, which means you can press your level 2 vs level 1 advantage.. then ride that advantage out and literally win the lane off that if you play tight. Denies matter a lot. Thats why stack/pull is so important to learn.

learn pos 5 and 4 (dont matter what order) FIRST. THEN move to pos 3, then pos 1, then pos 2 (mid) last. DO NOT be the trash player instant picking carry when you couldnt back pack a single potato because you cant farm for ♥♥♥♥ and can barely play the game.

learning a hero with a slow movement speed will encourage you to get better at positioning because if you dont learn that, you get dumpstered. lol.. crystal maiden comes to mind.

Personally Id try to learn witch doctor. buy boots, 2 bracers, then go for his aghs SHARD (the 1400g one). Hes really fun support. Gets a lot of kills. Super good when you learn him. And requires essentially no items at all when played properly. (like a counter ganker OR an initiator who attacks from trees like a ninja)

For hotkeys you need all 4 abilities, prob 1 'sub ability' depending on what heroes you play, and to start at least 3 item hotkeys. You also need your TP scroll (instant teleport scroll) bound. I use mouse 4 (left side button) for TP scroll and mouse 5 for VOIP (push to talk button).

Thank you very much for the good advice !
don't worry, i know how important is the wave manipulation and how exp is like, insanely important on who wins. plus macro and timing on the spawn of objectives. genuinely good advice specially on the slower heroes for practice part. i'll start on that.
a better rephrase of my question would be. who is the hero that requires the most apm(action per minute)to be played optimally? for me to aim for.

[oldschool]

@ OP
do yourself a favor and forget about this game before it gets its teeth into you
its not fun and people dont actually enjoy playing it

[Hvok]

Originally posted by oldschool:

@ OP
do yourself a favor and forget about this game before it gets its teeth into you
its not fun and people dont actually enjoy playing it

is it by bad game design? or bad matchmaking?.

[Rizrak]

please dont

[XycoxZthron X ;)]

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Originally posted by XycoxZthron X ):

Also new crownfall update will come out soon

how sooon?

Man ive heard it comes today!!!! Update Tuesday

[Charles: The High Dolphin]

Originally posted by Hvok:

Originally posted by oldschool:

@ OP
do yourself a favor and forget about this game before it gets its teeth into you
its not fun and people dont actually enjoy playing it

is it by bad game design? or bad matchmaking?.

The matchmaking is rigged and enforcing a 50% winrate on everyone. Good players hate it, bad players hate it too.

The game is and can be fun but valve is actively hurting the enjoyment of everyone to have Dota sink it's teeths into you, keeping you frustrated and angry enough to keep the engagement going.

It is a form of torture.

[JJ, Professional Fool]

Maybe venomancer? He cannot go invisible but has many stacks of poisons that can be heavy grief to the enemy. It cannot go invisible without an item, you can build early into a weapon that grants invisibility for a time and ambush with slowing poisons.

[Archangel]

run from dota and run fast, you probably heard this alot but dota will ruin your self esteem, this game will bring out the worst in you, so for your mental health don't get into it. don't listen to those motivational speakers they are devils who will bully you until you think you are ♥♥♥♥.