Dota 2
NekoPara Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:36am
Overplus
Get ready to play with new players with overplus, because they update cheat and get new protection system, write this on reddit, maybe valve will pay attention and do anything to this
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AIR Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:49am 
I agree with you: the pseudo "Dota+" and Overwolf or whatever it's called, it gives and advantage by allowing players to see things that the regular client doesn't allow and I consider unfair advantage aswell.

We don't need reddit, we can make your post big here. Valve should really prohibit this app.

Overwolf is weird: even my Logitech G Hub (it's an official app from Logitech, to help me configure my headphones and mouse) has the option to add a hotkey to it and discord: and I never installed Overwolf.

I understand it's a popular app, the the flaws the app exploit are basically due to the fact that Dota API is open for Data Collection. But still, it's unfair.

I own a UltraWide monitor, and it gives a huge edge already: the interface is the same size, but more evenly spread, so I get a much clearer screen. But it falls under the same category as having a good mouse and good keyboard, or having a good computer that runs smoothly with a decent FPS, so I don't consider it cheating.

It's not having double standards, it is just that these things are apples and oranges: I could install Overwolf to get an extra advantage - like any user - since it's allowed by Valve. But I refuse to, since I consider it a violation of privacy - even with private status, people with that app can still see what you picked previous game, it's ludicrous.
Gane needs to open his wallet and hire better security experts, not rely on the boomers who programed half life to do it
AIR Feb 20, 2024 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by pinky:
Valve is too scared to sue them. This app has a skinchanger (literally every item in the game) and a free dota+ subscription. The app has been running since 2017, if I'm not mistaken. Imagine how much money Valve lost on skins because of this app. 155K users by the way. We can count the money in tens of millions. Now you know why Valve doesn't want to make battlepasses anymore.

I would not be surprised if someone at VALVE is behind Overwolf: not as the owner, but as a co-developer side gig. That is the only reasonable explanation why Valve doesn't ban Overwolf.

There is no need to sue: Overwolf just need to be prohibited, and running it while Running Dota can cause a ban. IF the app try to "hide", then it's basically the same as a hack or a script - the definition of cheating.

Originally posted by ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:
Gane needs to open his wallet and hire better security experts, not rely on the boomers who programed half life to do it

No no no: Steam has some of the best security IT guys in the world working for them. And of course, they deal with Valve products aswell.

The one to blame, for real, is ICEFROG, since he is the lead developer of Dota 2 and is allowing this Overwolf run without punishment. It's all on the DEVS.
AIR Feb 20, 2024 @ 10:34am 
I went ahead and created a GitHub complain:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/15564

Please, if you agree, gives a thumbs up in there.
NekoPara Feb 21, 2024 @ 3:59am 
I write on GitHub and take screenshot for this site
NekoPara Feb 21, 2024 @ 4:00am 
Who read this say about this to valve
76561198110152881 Feb 21, 2024 @ 4:20am 
Originally posted by NekoPara:
Who read this say about this to valve
valve are idiots
consider this post as valve competency
MovingTargetTez Feb 21, 2024 @ 7:38am 
Originally posted by Cain:
I went ahead and created a GitHub complain:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/15564

Please, if you agree, gives a thumbs up in there.

I'd say adding a link to a thread you created making accusatory comments about Valve Employee being involved in/with these sites wasn't your smartest move.

A bit odd given how you recently tried/failed to secure an employment role with valve. Almost sounds bitter....

A lesson to be learned I guess :)

Edit: After looking at the link it has been made clear to me that:
a) You don't understand/respect what a the github fourm is.... given how you have posted a hate thread in a help section
b) You're still craving recognition in the community, no matter what community it is.
c) You're the type of person who likes their own posts and dislikes criticism (kind of knew that already)
d) No matter the platform you still need to write an essay to get your point across.
Last edited by MovingTargetTez; Feb 22, 2024 @ 3:37am
Си́нтез Feb 21, 2024 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by pinky:
Valve is too scared to sue them. This app has a skinchanger (literally every item in the game) and a free dota+ subscription. The app has been running since 2017, if I'm not mistaken. Imagine how much money Valve lost on skins because of this app. 155K users by the way. We can count the money in tens of millions. Now you know why Valve doesn't want to make battlepasses anymore.

A company like Valve will go bankrupt if they try to go after even 5% of cheat developers for their game. This will be just waste of millions of dollars to actually go and attempt to legally challenge these half-anonymous projects, that geographically are far away from valve and unlikely that local authorities will just cooperate with valve.

You shut down one website somehow and 3 will spawn. By the same people. And Valve aren't masters of the web or business registartion or programming. They can't just go on the web and shut down something.

They just... can't be bothered with going after someone who will never pay valve a dime in any legal outcome and will rerelease their program under new name.
Last edited by Си́нтез; Feb 21, 2024 @ 8:34am
Sentient Entropy Feb 21, 2024 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:
Originally posted by Cain:
I went ahead and created a GitHub complain:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issues/15564

Please, if you agree, gives a thumbs up in there.

I'd say adding a link to a thread you created making accusatory comments about Valve Employee being involved in/with these sites wasn't your smartest move.

A bit odd given how you recently tried/failed to secure an employment role with valve. Almost sounds bitter....

A lesson to be learned I guess :)

This thread being filled with people banned for senseless insults and baseless conspiracy theories doesn't exactly instill confidence either.
MovingTargetTez Feb 21, 2024 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:
This thread being filled with people banned for senseless insults and baseless conspiracy theories doesn't exactly instill confidence either.

Very true, although it is only 2 people.

If only they cleansed the "rigged matchmaking" conspiracy threads like this 😆
looser club Feb 22, 2024 @ 8:40am 
nobody gaf/ go cry acoustic kid
NekoPara Feb 25, 2024 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by 日曜日:
nobody gaf/ go cry acoustic kid
Yes, but for some reason, the users of the overlplus are crying whose ♥♥♥♥ is stuck in their ass and they got a VACban
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