Dota 2
Nintega2000 Oct 13, 2023 @ 11:07am
Dota, please, either add role queue to unranked or remove the 100 hours of unranked requirement to play ranked
I tried to get into this game a few months ago, but with no role queue at all until you've played 100 hours of unranked, it's completely unbearable. Even if I were to play a hero that was good in literally every position, not knowing WHAT position I end up getting filled in (Especially with other people who also don't know/don't care, even WITH the built-in lane select communication thing before each game) makes every game just an unbearable cluster fu<k. There's a reason League of Legends has draft available for norms & why no one plays Blind Pick in that game anymore. Role Queue is ***mandatory*** for situations like this. & before you say anything, New players need it WAY more than experienced ones since they know when to break from the norm in terms of team comps & lane distribution, while new players can't even grasp the concept of camp pulling
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Zagryzaec Oct 13, 2023 @ 12:08pm 
New players don't need role queue at all because they have no idea what roles supposed to do. Better use this opportunity to learn to communicate.

Lol matchmaking is a joke because when you choose two roles you want it gives you third when you don't even have a character for it.
Nintega2000 Oct 13, 2023 @ 7:17pm 
Originally posted by Zagryzaec:
New players don't need role queue at all because they have no idea what roles supposed to do. Better use this opportunity to learn to communicate.

Lol matchmaking is a joke because when you choose two roles you want it gives you third when you don't even have a character for it.

I'd rather that then what we currently have, which is literally nothing. & "Use this opportunity to learn to communicate" Except most new players ALSO don't communicate well if at all. So when I ask what position/role everyone's going, often they don't even respond & just do their own thing. Fu<king unbearable
D4C Oct 13, 2023 @ 7:24pm 
go back you league,you not welcome here.
learn to communicate in draft. its 2 minutes out your hour, why are you so against it?
Ragnoraok Oct 13, 2023 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:
learn to communicate in draft. its 2 minutes out your hour, why are you so against it?

There isn't enough time in-between drafts to coordinate especially for new players. The best that you can do is to pick last and fill.
Absche Oct 14, 2023 @ 3:28am 
Roles is not meant to be for ranked but for unranked, means for people that cannot communicate and negotiate for a good hero lineup. In general, it is a kind of convenience feature, an assistance system for players that need some assistance.
Last edited by Absche; Oct 14, 2023 @ 3:32am
Originally posted by Nintega2000:
I tried to get into this game a few months ago, but with no role queue at all until you've played 100 hours of unranked, it's completely unbearable. Even if I were to play a hero that was good in literally every position, not knowing WHAT position I end up getting filled in (Especially with other people who also don't know/don't care, even WITH the built-in lane select communication thing before each game) makes every game just an unbearable cluster fu<k. There's a reason League of Legends has draft available for norms & why no one plays Blind Pick in that game anymore. Role Queue is ***mandatory*** for situations like this. & before you say anything, New players need it WAY more than experienced ones since they know when to break from the norm in terms of team comps & lane distribution, while new players can't even grasp the concept of camp pulling
If you cant play multiple heroes and do well in unranked you arent ready for ranked probs.

Better to practice and get calibrated better later anyways.
Nintega2000 Oct 14, 2023 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by Prophylaxis:
Originally posted by Nintega2000:
I tried to get into this game a few months ago, but with no role queue at all until you've played 100 hours of unranked, it's completely unbearable. Even if I were to play a hero that was good in literally every position, not knowing WHAT position I end up getting filled in (Especially with other people who also don't know/don't care, even WITH the built-in lane select communication thing before each game) makes every game just an unbearable cluster fu<k. There's a reason League of Legends has draft available for norms & why no one plays Blind Pick in that game anymore. Role Queue is ***mandatory*** for situations like this. & before you say anything, New players need it WAY more than experienced ones since they know when to break from the norm in terms of team comps & lane distribution, while new players can't even grasp the concept of camp pulling
If you cant play multiple heroes and do well in unranked you arent ready for ranked probs.

Better to practice and get calibrated better later anyways.

It's not even about not getting the role I want, it's about knowing what role I'm effectively filled into in the 1st place. WAY too many times have my teammates just done whatever the hell they wanted which sometimes resulted in 3 of them going mid or just everyone wandering around the map all willy nilly even during laning phase. Actually unplayable
will Oct 14, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Nintega2000:
Originally posted by Prophylaxis:
If you cant play multiple heroes and do well in unranked you arent ready for ranked probs.

Better to practice and get calibrated better later anyways.

It's not even about not getting the role I want, it's about knowing what role I'm effectively filled into in the 1st place. WAY too many times have my teammates just done whatever the hell they wanted which sometimes resulted in 3 of them going mid or just everyone wandering around the map all willy nilly even during laning phase. Actually unplayable

Usually, the role that is not fullfilled is support (but not always).
Many people dislike supporting so if you support, they are happy, and you'll probably learn the game / your support hero with less loss..

Also, I hope you did the tutorials and play some matchs with new player mode, before jumping in the wild.
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Date Posted: Oct 13, 2023 @ 11:07am
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