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76561198115224854 Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:04pm
Ember spirit is so weak
Am I the only one thinking so?

His early game is almost non exsistant while lategame his dps is just way way too low to do anything with that 6 seconds cd slash thingy.

He feels really weak. First I thought i just wasnt doing well, but he's the first hero I can absolutely do nothing with. Even after practising.
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76561198115224854 Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:06pm 
alright :/ I'm pretty sure he's just weak but if you say so
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Yoshi Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:09pm 
I did not try him out yet BUT seen players that handle him awesome and they push like crazy
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76561198115224854 Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:10pm 
Yea but when it comes to cm, with more organised teams he's so weak. His CC is unreliable and his dps is easily matched. He's just not worth the gold.
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green wheelchair Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:11pm 
He's not a late game carry, after playing him i noticed that he drops off hard, especially if you go from playing extremly well and thinking you're unkillable this kind of cockiness gets you killed. Just try to remember that he's good early with his skillset but can't do much late.
Last edited by green wheelchair; Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:11pm
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Benatos Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:13pm 
His armor is low and if you play carry build his HP are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.
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Benatos Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by дерьмо убийца 9000:
He's not a late game carry, after playing him i noticed that he drops off hard, especially if you go from playing extremly well and thinking you're unkillable this kind of cockiness gets you killed. Just try to remember that he's good early with his skillset but can't do much late.
Exactly. After you encoutner in a teamfight and your spells are on cd, he is dead, very easy to kill.
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Yoshi Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:15pm 
I advice you to go semi carry with him from start
Last edited by Yoshi; Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:15pm
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76561198115224854 Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by дерьмо убийца 9000:
He's not a late game carry, after playing him i noticed that he drops off hard, especially if you go from playing extremly well and thinking you're unkillable this kind of cockiness gets you killed. Just try to remember that he's good early with his skillset but can't do much late.

Idk I find his early very weak and his midgame 'OK' at best. That CD of his W during early is absolutely disturbingly high
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Yoshi Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by Injustice SERVED:
Originally posted by дерьмо убийца 9000:
He's not a late game carry, after playing him i noticed that he drops off hard, especially if you go from playing extremly well and thinking you're unkillable this kind of cockiness gets you killed. Just try to remember that he's good early with his skillset but can't do much late.

Idk I find his early very weak and his midgame 'OK' at best. That CD of his W during early is absolutely disturbingly high
Dont forget he is a new hero, icefrog will buff him nerf him re-buff and nerf and buff again
Last edited by Yoshi; Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:16pm
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76561198115224854 Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by Mathematical Breakfast:
Originally posted by Injustice SERVED:

Idk I find his early very weak and his midgame 'OK' at best. That CD of his W during early is absolutely disturbingly high
Dont forget he is a new hero, icefrog will buf fhim nerf him re-buff and nerf and buff again

Sure hope so. Almost any semi carry tops him easily. Also earth spirit >>>>>>>>> ember spirit.
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̣ Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:23pm 
He doesn't need attack speed
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̣ Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by Injustice SERVED:
Originally posted by Mathematical Breakfast:
Dont forget he is a new hero, icefrog will buf fhim nerf him re-buff and nerf and buff again

Sure hope so. Almost any semi carry tops him easily. Also earth spirit >>>>>>>>> ember spirit.
Btw earth spirit isn't a carry.
He's support/initiator
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himself78RR Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by Injustice SERVED:
Yea but when it comes to cm, with more organised teams he's so weak. His CC is unreliable and his dps is easily matched. He's just not worth the gold.

Who are you to say he's bad in CM. He isn't in it yet...
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Mield♥ Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:27pm 
Ember is good and useless, only way I can find them of any use is if you're up against heroes that have high illusion base, PL, Naga, AM, CK, and so on. I used him once in a regular team match, dude I would literally demolish, obliterate, destroy, pl illusions with one skill throw and the guy had heart on pl, now tell me that's not op?
Heck in the team fights we usually didn't do much, Zeus would ult>Refresher>ult and I would use his W skill and the enemy team would either die or be dying, all we had to do is clean them up and push.
Personally, if you wanna go carry on him and its getting to late game get these items, they help a lot.
Phase>BF>BF>Skadi>Butterfly>Heart. Doesn't need to be in order but the 2 bfs do need to be farmed ASAP or you're useless to the team.
But like I said, he's only good when you're up against illusion base heroes.
I had so much fun killing PL, the guy was so cocky all because he had that hero and was late game.. lol
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76561198115224854 Nov 20, 2013 @ 3:32pm 
Originally posted by DARKLY | Discodude:
Originally posted by Injustice SERVED:
Yea but when it comes to cm, with more organised teams he's so weak. His CC is unreliable and his dps is easily matched. He's just not worth the gold.

Who are you to say he's bad in CM. He isn't in it yet...

Is that so lol. Must admit I lied there, but when you previously said 'organised games' you get replies as 'lol you play pubgames mang'. So I simply tried to avoid those. Argument I made is still valid tho
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