Dota 2
Yuci Dec 13, 2013 @ 10:36pm
Buff the fountain?
We all know people camp at the fountain and it doesn't seem like much, but sometimes the dominating team is simply too farmed up, wants to prolong the game and can even tank the Fountain to kill any respawning heroes.

Now personally to me, this is lack of sportsmanship and dignity; refusing to end the game and killing the enemy team over and over simply for more kills/domination. Its also rather devastating and annoying towards the helpless team.

Either the damage output or the healing power of the fountain could be buffed; damage output will prevent anymore heroes tanking the fountain, and buffing the healing can give the victims a chance to retaliate the campers outside. (Although it is possible that the healing would be too fast for retreating heroes in mid game, so yeah.)

What do you all think? Have you been fountain camped?
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Xumi Dec 13, 2013 @ 11:00pm 
A surrender button that activates under certain team kills ratio, like 2:1 or 3:1
Mutineer Dec 13, 2013 @ 11:02pm 
just report, intentional farming kills at fountan is ability abuse. They will go low priority.
Yoshbag Dec 13, 2013 @ 11:09pm 
I have been fountain camped and I have fountain camped. Personally, I don't mind it. If they get cocky and do that, just kill them. I find it fun either way and the fountain shouldn't be buffed or nerfed, just leave it alone valve :D
76561198024166186 Dec 13, 2013 @ 11:21pm 
i agree, enemies should instantly die if they go into the opposing fountain. spawn killing is not allowed in other games and should not be allowed in dota as well b'c its unnecessary. just go win the fu.cking game
Xumi Dec 14, 2013 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by Virgil:
Originally posted by Mutineer:
just report, intentional farming kills at fountan is ability abuse. They will go low priority.

Add to this more than 2 reports per week, as this is more common than rage or trolling.

This, 2 days ago we had a ancient apparition that farmed the whole game and fed the courier as soon as it respawned.

The mos frustrating "no reports left" ever !
RageQuit Dec 14, 2013 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by Xumi:
A surrender button that activates under certain team kills ratio, like 2:1 or 3:1

A surrender option has Always been needed but failed to be because of lack of anti-abuse idea, but I quite like this one.

Dota 2 can be very frustrating especially for the loosing team and the fact Dota forces you to play a complete match no matter how one sided it can be, while the other side has it's fun with you, drives it's player to be frustrated and then act themselves like unresponsible non-friendly players.

It's a vicious cycle, valve has been disregarding completely, providing poorly made up systems like the so called "report system". A way to vastly ameliorate it's player base mentality would be to find a way to avoid such frustrating situations and the likes from happening, by implementing something such as a surrender button.

WHICH has been worked on and not just an other uneffecient abuse-friendly system!
Last edited by RageQuit; Dec 14, 2013 @ 1:30am
AJJK Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:11pm 
Ive been discussing this extensively with a couple of my friends we came up with some good ideas here:

1. Kills/assists made while fountain farming do not count toward score and do not give rewards
2. Upping the damage/range of the fountain
3. Some sort of a "Delaying the end of the game" option (a team vote maybe?)
4. Up the punishment of a hero dying while fountain farming (take gold, reset their KDA to 0, drop all their items or something? kind of harsh but hey...)
5. Any positive buffs (such as Abbadons ult) disappear within a certain range of the fountain.

Yeah I do remember the punishment in Dota 1 for pulling this classless stunt...
FELIX Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:32pm 
I didn't play a lot of Dota 1, but both HoN and LoL have "fountains" that do a lot more damage ircc.
I don't recall anyone running into the fountain and surviving in HoN, though I haven't played HoN since the early Dota 2 days so they might have changed that.
Last edited by FELIX; Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:32pm
Flying LSD Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:34pm 
lol
NieRShadow Jan 7, 2014 @ 2:36pm 
Just make it like a LoL fountain where it pretty much instakills everyone
Shaggy Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:34pm 
This has yet to fail me actually.

"Commends for all if you end within x minutes"

Some of them might still fountain farm, but a few will try and end for those commends.
(Protip: don't commend)
Lester, Moe Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by Mutineer:
just report, intentional farming kills at fountan is ability abuse. They will go low priority.

this
RobbingHood Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:40pm 
!!!!
Lester, Moe Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:41pm 
fountain camping means there giving you a chance for a comeback

billy Jan 7, 2014 @ 3:54pm 
Good idea OP . The fountain needs a buff.
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Date Posted: Dec 13, 2013 @ 10:36pm
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