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(Bloqueado) 3 ENE 2015 a las 11:00

Is CK a hard carry?

I never see people pick him

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Myst?c

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:28

Publicado originalmente por Arendelle:
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wtf are you saying,if the ck is in the 2e skill range,and ember don't have a remnant,ember is pretty much death.
lol.........................no. but ck doesnt have an option to stay away from his illusions like other illusion heros so it hurts him alot more.

he can, but it doesnt synergize well with his skills, reality rift grabs your illusions from a radiace around you, including manta ones, and manta could do well for split pushing, send manta illusions on one wave, and phantasm on the other

#16

fROZEN

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:29

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Publicado originalmente por Arendelle:
lol.........................no. but ck doesnt have an option to stay away from his illusions like other illusion heros so it hurts him alot more.
he can, but it doesnt synergize well with his skills, reality rift grabs your illusions from a radiace around you, including manta ones, and manta could do well for split pushing, send manta illusions on one wave, and phantasm on the other

thats not what ck is about tho.

Última edición por fROZEN; 3 ENE 2015 a las 11:29

#17

Myst?c

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:32

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he can, but it doesnt synergize well with his skills, reality rift grabs your illusions from a radiace around you, including manta ones, and manta could do well for split pushing, send manta illusions on one wave, and phantasm on the other
thats not what ck is about tho.

like i said, it doesnt synergize well with his skills, now if reality rift were able to grab all of his illusions global, well i pity the enemy team as he can be alone and illusions everywhere else, and bam

#18

Tirigon

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:32

Publicado originalmente por Nike(E) the Festive Panda:
Publicado originalmente por Tirigon the Phantom Juggernaut:
Yes, but a bad one.
His earlygame is horrible even by carry standards, and his lategame is not strong enough to make up for that.

just.. just no
ck has a really high kill potential early game with a stun that can last for 4 secs and late game he has 5 illusions criting for well over 1k who are tanky as ♥♥♥♥. late game ck just rifts a target and then they die pretty much instantly and early game he can be in a very agresive dual or tri lane

He is bad, if you think otherwise, pick him all the time and see your winrate drop, I dont care. All I'm saying is, there's a reason why he is rarely picked, and one of the only heroes noone is crying for a nerf on his forum. And that reason is he's bad.

#19

Myst?c

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:33

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thats not what ck is about tho.
ck illusion are a pain,he can manta+ulti,and,send his illusion in peace destroy your tower and your rack,and,nobody can come close because of the criiiiit.

to be fair, 5 enemies critting you for 400+ doest feel good

#20

fROZEN

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:33

Publicado originalmente por FISHY 물고기:
Publicado originalmente por Arendelle:
thats not what ck is about tho.
ck illusion are a pain,he can manta+ulti,and,send his illusion in peace destroy your tower and your rack,and,nobody can come close because of the criiiiit.

someone like ember with 2 bfs will kill all of his illusions with 1 use of his 2nd skill and doesnt need to come close.

#21

Myst?c

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:34

Publicado originalmente por Tirigon the Phantom Juggernaut:
Publicado originalmente por Nike(E) the Festive Panda:

just.. just no
ck has a really high kill potential early game with a stun that can last for 4 secs and late game he has 5 illusions criting for well over 1k who are tanky as ♥♥♥♥. late game ck just rifts a target and then they die pretty much instantly and early game he can be in a very agresive dual or tri lane
He is bad, if you think otherwise, pick him all the time and see your winrate drop, I dont care. All I'm saying is, there's a reason why he is rarely picked, and one of the only heroes noone is crying for a nerf on his forum. And that reason is he's bad.

you just gotta monitor your mana, dont skill crit right away, put some points in stats early game, and so on

#22

SynC[+]

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:36

I wouldn't consider CK a carry but more of a ganker since his rift + stun combo is really good early-mid game and he doesn't scale as well as traditional hard carries...

#23

вторая часть tiene Dota 2

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:39

cyka bljiat'

#24

Tirigon

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:43

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Publicado originalmente por Tirigon the Phantom Juggernaut:
He is bad, if you think otherwise, pick him all the time and see your winrate drop, I dont care. All I'm saying is, there's a reason why he is rarely picked, and one of the only heroes noone is crying for a nerf on his forum. And that reason is he's bad.
you just gotta monitor your mana, dont skill crit right away, put some points in stats early game, and so on

So what? NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO YOU ARENT AS STRONG AS REAL CARRIES.
Period.

If you want a Str carry, pick Alchi, or Sven, or Leoric, or Lifestealer. Not CK.

#25

corbet

(Bloqueado) 3 ENE 2015 a las 11:52

CK has very high mana costs, and low mana pool, and lower agility and strength than most carries. and his attack damage and speed are about the same.

just for instance check out troll warlords, or phantom assassin's manacosts, then check out chaosknight's mana costs.

#26

corbet

(Bloqueado) 3 ENE 2015 a las 11:56

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thats not what ck is about tho.
ck illusion are a pain,he can manta+ulti,and,send his illusion in peace destroy your tower and your rack,and,nobody can come close because of the criiiiit.

crits don't work on structures.

#27

MY DIET DR. KELP tiene Dota 2

3 ENE 2015 a las 11:57

Publicado originalmente por evoke evoke evoke evoke evoke ev:
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ck illusion are a pain,he can manta+ulti,and,send his illusion in peace destroy your tower and your rack,and,nobody can come close because of the criiiiit.
crits don't work on structures.

He meant no hero can go close, because the crit would be high enough for rape.

#28