Dota 2
When did Bat Rider get so bad?
Randomed him in AP, didn;t have a terribad game or feed but his auto attack damage is terrible, even with stacks of Napalm. To use the ulti it seems like you have to actually be on top of the hero, I swear it used o have a longer range than this?

Anyway, I used to like Bat Rider, didn't play him for ages now and he just seems sucky and irrelevant. What gives?
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6.82
Flaming Lasso cooldown increased from 90/70/50 to 90/75/60
Sticky Napalm can be dispelled.

6.81b

Sticky Napalm bonus damage is now halved against non-hero units.

6.81

Flaming Lasso mana cost increased from 150 to 225.

6.80

Attack animation time improved from 0.5 to 0.3.

6.79

Base damage reduced from 48-52 to 38-42.
Vision reduced from 1400 to 1200.
Flaming Lasso cast range reduced from 175 to 100.

6.78c

Flamebreak cooldown increased from 11 seconds to 14.

6.78

Vision decreased from 1800/800 to 1400/800.
Flamebreak manacost increased from 80/100/120/140 to 140.

6.77

Batrider can no longer attack while using Flaming Lasso icon.png Flaming Lasso.

6.76

Strength gain decreased from 2.7 to 2.4.



Essentially, he's been nerfed every patch since like two years ago, due to being an utterly absurd hero.
Last edited by 256mb emoji cache; Dec 3, 2014 @ 7:40am
Crimson Sky Dec 3, 2014 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by Disproportionate Chen Randomer:

6.79

Base damage reduced from 48-52 to 38-42.
Vision reduced from 1400 to 1200.
Flaming Lasso cast range reduced from 175 to 100.

This seems to be the problem. Why was he so absurb before? And surely that is no good reason to kill the hero. Seriously, maybe I was playing him wrong but it was like he didn't exist.
He's actually still super strong he just doesn't win every game and is unable to miss a last hit now.
Zakorri Ro Dec 3, 2014 @ 8:14am 
I absolutly love playing batrider but his auto attack makes it extremly difficult to pick up last hits. Its along the same lines as meepo. They both do so little damage in the early game. Normally I use firefly for farming but I don't have the mana for it. He needs a buff.
blackoutchili Dec 3, 2014 @ 9:37am 
I can completely agree with everything OP stated. Lasthitting sucks, lasso range is ridiculous. Batrider basically shares the same fate with Terrorblade: Too good in the beginning, but gotten nerfed into oblivion, and now simply no more fun to play. Now there's like 5 heroes who do their role better. Before I pick Batrider on offlane I rather get Tide, Clock, Lich, Timber etc.
ChemicalBacon Dec 3, 2014 @ 9:44am 
He just got nerfed, and nerfed, and nerfed and nerfed.
No idea why
Zakorri Ro Dec 3, 2014 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
He just got nerfed, and nerfed, and nerfed and nerfed.
No idea why
I think it was because of how popular he was in Pro play. He was either banned or picked in most games.
ChemicalBacon Dec 3, 2014 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Zakorri Ro:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
He just got nerfed, and nerfed, and nerfed and nerfed.
No idea why
I think it was because of how popular he was in Pro play. He was either banned or picked in most games.
Wow. Is that it?
[BBSH] shmoulki Dec 3, 2014 @ 9:47am 
Sticky Napalm bonus damage is now halved against non-hero units.

this is the worst for me, i loved bat so much he was a great jungler and farmer but then....stupid patch....
He's still a cool hero to play but he totally lost his OPness...
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