Dota 2
Mangocopter Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:13am
WHY ZEE FOOK IZ URSA NOT A STRENGTH HERO?!
Think about it people...
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Because:

A) He was that way in DOTA 2
B) He has more strength than agility... meaning he would have more damage earlier on.
Mangocopter Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:15am 
Originally posted by Sir Strygwyr of Cykaland:
Because:

A) He was that way in DOTA 2
B) He has more strength than agility... meaning he would have more damage earlier on.

So he would be overpowered if he was Strength, you think?
because
1. His Ultimate gives you damage based on your max HP

2. STR only gives HP per point but if a hero's main attributes are STR it will also give that hero bonus damage.

3. Meaning if ursa's main attribute is STR stacking STR on him will not only give him max HP it will also increase his base damage.

4. Combined with his ulti ursa will become so OP(Very High base damage and HP because of STR stacks from items combined with his Ultimate) that nubs will rage/QQ/rant all over the forums requesting for a nerf.

5. Think about it.
Last edited by stardenburdenhardenbart; Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:26am
Mangocopter Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by RNGeesus:
because
1. His Ultimate gives you damage based on your max HP

2. STR only gives HP per point but if a hero's main attributes are STR it will also give that hero bonus damage.

3. Meaning if ursa's main attribute is STR stacking STR on him will not only give him max HP it will also increase his base damage.

4. Combined with his ulti ursa will become so OP(Very High base damage and HP because of STR stacks from items combined with his Ultimate) that nubs will rage/QQ/rant all over the forums requesting for a nerf.

5. Think about it.

That's exactly it. He's a carry. He's supposed to be ultra powerful, especially late game. Like PA, and Spectre.
zZzooey.exe Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:32am 
Originally posted by Yak Gold:
Originally posted by RNGeesus:
because
1. His Ultimate gives you damage based on your max HP

2. STR only gives HP per point but if a hero's main attributes are STR it will also give that hero bonus damage.

3. Meaning if ursa's main attribute is STR stacking STR on him will not only give him max HP it will also increase his base damage.

4. Combined with his ulti ursa will become so OP(Very High base damage and HP because of STR stacks from items combined with his Ultimate) that nubs will rage/QQ/rant all over the forums requesting for a nerf.

5. Think about it.

That's exactly it. He's a carry. He's supposed to be ultra powerful, especially late game. Like PA, and Spectre.

Still Im wondering why do I never see ursa in games anymore? Im not all knowing but maybe Im missing the obvious nerf or something?
I read patch notes and warn people about reading it but I guess Im full of flaws myself.
Literally in past 50 games I played no ursa was involved.
No matter what mode, and I shuffle through AP, AR, AD, RD, SD etc (but mostly AP non ranked)
Originally posted by Zooey:
Originally posted by Yak Gold:

That's exactly it. He's a carry. He's supposed to be ultra powerful, especially late game. Like PA, and Spectre.

Still Im wondering why do I never see ursa in games anymore? Im not all knowing but maybe Im missing the obvious nerf or something?
I read patch notes and warn people about reading it but I guess Im full of flaws myself.
Literally in past 50 games I played no ursa was involved.
No matter what mode, and I shuffle through AP, AR, AD, RD, SD etc (but mostly AP non ranked)
Everyone wants to play PA or one of the contracts.
zZzooey.exe Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:35am 
Originally posted by Sir Strygwyr of Cykaland:
Originally posted by Zooey:

Still Im wondering why do I never see ursa in games anymore? Im not all knowing but maybe Im missing the obvious nerf or something?
I read patch notes and warn people about reading it but I guess Im full of flaws myself.
Literally in past 50 games I played no ursa was involved.
No matter what mode, and I shuffle through AP, AR, AD, RD, SD etc (but mostly AP non ranked)
Everyone wants to play PA or one of the contracts.

B-but even before the event! ;_;
Originally posted by Zooey:
Originally posted by Sir Strygwyr of Cykaland:
Everyone wants to play PA or one of the contracts.

B-but even before the event! ;_;
Hmmm....

Not sure about that...

I personally don't like playing as Ursa due to him not being the way I enjoy playing the game.
Originally posted by Yak Gold:
Originally posted by RNGeesus:
because
1. His Ultimate gives you damage based on your max HP

2. STR only gives HP per point but if a hero's main attributes are STR it will also give that hero bonus damage.

3. Meaning if ursa's main attribute is STR stacking STR on him will not only give him max HP it will also increase his base damage.

4. Combined with his ulti ursa will become so OP(Very High base damage and HP because of STR stacks from items combined with his Ultimate) that nubs will rage/QQ/rant all over the forums requesting for a nerf.

5. Think about it.

That's exactly it. He's a carry. He's supposed to be ultra powerful, especially late game. Like PA, and Spectre.
He is no way in the same league when it comes to hard carries like Spectre and Medusa. He is like Legion Commander and Kunkka, they can carry but only if they snowball out of control.
Mokaran Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:42am 
Because Armlet on Strength Ursa = GG
Lis Pustyni (Banned) Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Yak Gold:
Think about it people...

Normally , Ursa love attack speed and some bullet dodging. (Ursa got ulti , who need some crappy strenght with such tasty ulti? No one.)

Also, why druid bear in Warcraft basing on agility , but not strength? Just because.
Last edited by Lis Pustyni; Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:47am
boat Nov 25, 2014 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Zooey:
Originally posted by Yak Gold:

That's exactly it. He's a carry. He's supposed to be ultra powerful, especially late game. Like PA, and Spectre.

Still Im wondering why do I never see ursa in games anymore? Im not all knowing but maybe Im missing the obvious nerf or something?
I read patch notes and warn people about reading it but I guess Im full of flaws myself.
Literally in past 50 games I played no ursa was involved.
No matter what mode, and I shuffle through AP, AR, AD, RD, SD etc (but mostly AP non ranked)

It's not necessarily that he's a bad hero now, it's just that there's other heroes that are better picks.

In other words, he doesn't need a nerf to become unpopular. Another hero just needs a buff :/.
"Tyrant" Kuma Nov 25, 2014 @ 3:12am 
remember 6.81(Fury Swipes is no longer UAM.)?

ursa was everywhere.

ursa doesnt scale well as other late gamers. its because the build includes some strength based items, which makes him relay on overpower for dps.

in 6.82, ursa loses because of the change in game lengths.

and mostly people bored to play him because of the overuse of him in 6.81. and this is what gonna happen to PA in a month
7Mad About You Nov 25, 2014 @ 3:17am 
Strenght ursa = OP

nuff said
Mangocopter Nov 25, 2014 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by Lis Pustyni:
Originally posted by Yak Gold:
Think about it people...

Normally , Ursa love attack speed and some bullet dodging. (Ursa got ulti , who need some crappy strenght with such tasty ulti? No one.)

Also, why druid bear in Warcraft basing on agility , but not strength? Just because.

Dude, if Ursa was Strength his ult would make so much more sense seeing as how one needs to build Strength and health items to make the most of it.
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