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Mjolnir on PA
I see a lot of people getting Mjolnir on PA lately, what do you guys think about that? Is it worth getting it over the battlefury (if you get one)?
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SWAT V4 Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:36am 
I get Mjolnir after Battlefury and Abyssal Blade.
Lot more chances for massive crits.

And its not lately, I've been building Mjolnir on PA since my second match as PA, I guess, which was a long time back.
Last edited by SWAT V4; Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:37am
Lucifer Morningstar Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:41am 
Do you get it as 1st major item or after bkb?
Originally posted by SWAT V4:
I get Mjolnir after Battlefury and Abyssal Blade.
Lot more chances for massive crits.

And its not lately, I've been building Mjolnir on PA since my second match as PA, I guess, which was a long time back.
SWAT V4 Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:45am 
Nope.
BKB is situational, depends whether there are many stunners or disablers, or an Ace with Blademail, in the other team. If there are not, I would skip it. Go straight for Battlefury ( should have HoD before hand), Then Abyssal and then Mjolnir. Works most of the time.
ChemicalBacon Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:45am 
I do it if I feel Butterfly won't cut it.
Normally I get butterfly for the minor evasion boost but also the speed toggle.
Also the agility bonus makes you hit hard late game.

Mjoll is a build I have used for a while.
I combine it with desolator against right clickers who dare to hit me.
As a result the squisher heroes don't want to hit me and the harder hitters get shocked and rushed down by desolator

Also that early hyperstone makes light work of most heroes.

The two ways to build PA is either high damage and stats (hit hard and hope you get a crit) or fast but low damage (lots of crits and item effects but not as much damage)

Personally I prefer the latter.
Item proc chances like skullbasher make you really strong with high attack speed
SWAT V4 Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:47am 
Yea, forgot to ,mention that.

hen you get Mjolnir, get your Hyperstone first.
MacroX Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by GrandmasterSwagggC.I:
Do you get it as 1st major item or after bkb?
Originally posted by SWAT V4:
I get Mjolnir after Battlefury and Abyssal Blade.
Lot more chances for massive crits.

And its not lately, I've been building Mjolnir on PA since my second match as PA, I guess, which was a long time back.
it depends on the situation if enemy team have too many stunners and u end up ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up by spells then better stick to bkb on first palce
Lucifer Morningstar Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:49am 
If I dont feel like farming I always get basher/abyssal together with satanic, sometimes skip battlefury in general (if there are no meepo or lancer). Guess I gotta try the new build.
Originally posted by SWAT V4:
Nope.
BKB is situational, depends whether there are many stunners or disablers, or an Ace with Blademail, in the other team. If there are not, I would skip it. Go straight for Battlefury ( should have HoD before hand), Then Abyssal and then Mjolnir. Works most of the time.
woof Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I do it if I feel Butterfly won't cut it.
Normally I get butterfly for the minor evasion boost but also the speed toggle.
Also the agility bonus makes you hit hard late game.

Mjoll is a build I have used for a while.
I combine it with desolator against right clickers who dare to hit me.
As a result the squisher heroes don't want to hit me and the harder hitters get shocked and rushed down by desolator

Also that early hyperstone makes light work of most heroes.

The two ways to build PA is either high damage and stats (hit hard and hope you get a crit) or fast but low damage (lots of crits and item effects but not as much damage)

Personally I prefer the latter.
Item proc chances like skullbasher make you really strong with high attack speed
Getting a Yasha is way better on PA than butterfly imo, it's cheaper and doesn't get countered by MKB.

Mjollnir with desolator is incredibly greedy and can be countered by a fast blademail, getting a desolator and then going for a fast bkb is way better even though I'd rather get maelstorm into bkb as it is faster and gives you more time to domiante the game before the enemy team gets SOVs and mkbs
ChemicalBacon Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by GrandmasterSwagggC.I:
If I dont feel like farming I always get basher/abyssal together with satanic, sometimes skip battlefury in general (if there are no meepo or lancer). Guess I gotta try the new build.
Originally posted by SWAT V4:
Nope.
BKB is situational, depends whether there are many stunners or disablers, or an Ace with Blademail, in the other team. If there are not, I would skip it. Go straight for Battlefury ( should have HoD before hand), Then Abyssal and then Mjolnir. Works most of the time.

I see too much battlefury PA in pubs.
Battle fury should only be bought if:-
1) You are against an illusion heavy hero such as meepo or Lancer
2) You and your team intend to farm and you get battlefury PRE 18 MINS
3) You have an allied hero that can change the postioning of the enemy such as Dark seer, Magnus or Enigma
ChemicalBacon Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Kvek:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I do it if I feel Butterfly won't cut it.
Normally I get butterfly for the minor evasion boost but also the speed toggle.
Also the agility bonus makes you hit hard late game.

Mjoll is a build I have used for a while.
I combine it with desolator against right clickers who dare to hit me.
As a result the squisher heroes don't want to hit me and the harder hitters get shocked and rushed down by desolator

Also that early hyperstone makes light work of most heroes.

The two ways to build PA is either high damage and stats (hit hard and hope you get a crit) or fast but low damage (lots of crits and item effects but not as much damage)

Personally I prefer the latter.
Item proc chances like skullbasher make you really strong with high attack speed
Getting a Yasha is way better on PA than butterfly imo, it's cheaper and doesn't get countered by MKB.

Mjollnir with desolator is incredibly greedy and can be countered by a fast blademail, getting a desolator and then going for a fast bkb is way better even though I'd rather get maelstorm into bkb as it is faster and gives you more time to domiante the game before the enemy team gets SOVs and mkbs
Everything can be countered, all item builds are situational
Lucifer Morningstar Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:54am 
Honestly I think Butterfly is a waste of money. Almost always there will be sombody that buys mkb for pa. It does give you solid damage and AS, but it doesnt fulfill it's job to full potential. Correct me if I am wrong, but I feel like AC will do a better job with mjolnir and basher/deso.
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I do it if I feel Butterfly won't cut it.
Normally I get butterfly for the minor evasion boost but also the speed toggle.
Also the agility bonus makes you hit hard late game.

Mjoll is a build I have used for a while.
I combine it with desolator against right clickers who dare to hit me.
As a result the squisher heroes don't want to hit me and the harder hitters get shocked and rushed down by desolator

Also that early hyperstone makes light work of most heroes.

The two ways to build PA is either high damage and stats (hit hard and hope you get a crit) or fast but low damage (lots of crits and item effects but not as much damage)

Personally I prefer the latter.
Item proc chances like skullbasher make you really strong with high attack speed
Lucifer Morningstar Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:55am 
I know thouse basics m8. Thank you for this tho :p.
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by GrandmasterSwagggC.I:
If I dont feel like farming I always get basher/abyssal together with satanic, sometimes skip battlefury in general (if there are no meepo or lancer). Guess I gotta try the new build.

I see too much battlefury PA in pubs.
Battle fury should only be bought if:-
1) You are against an illusion heavy hero such as meepo or Lancer
2) You and your team intend to farm and you get battlefury PRE 18 MINS
3) You have an allied hero that can change the postioning of the enemy such as Dark seer, Magnus or Enigma
ChemicalBacon Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by GrandmasterSwagggC.I:
Honestly I think Butterfly is a waste of money. Almost always there will be sombody that buys mkb for pa. It does give you solid damage and AS, but it doesnt fulfill it's job to full potential. Correct me if I am wrong, but I feel like AC will do a better job with mjolnir and basher/deso.
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I do it if I feel Butterfly won't cut it.
Normally I get butterfly for the minor evasion boost but also the speed toggle.
Also the agility bonus makes you hit hard late game.

Mjoll is a build I have used for a while.
I combine it with desolator against right clickers who dare to hit me.
As a result the squisher heroes don't want to hit me and the harder hitters get shocked and rushed down by desolator

Also that early hyperstone makes light work of most heroes.

The two ways to build PA is either high damage and stats (hit hard and hope you get a crit) or fast but low damage (lots of crits and item effects but not as much damage)

Personally I prefer the latter.
Item proc chances like skullbasher make you really strong with high attack speed

Honestly I never really get AC on PA.
If I think I need the speed boost I ask if someone else can build it

The whole Butterfly/Battlefury/Mjoll thing can go in loops
All items are situational, Most situations I have I build butterfly
The others I build Mjoll
Just what works for me
ChemicalBacon Nov 22, 2014 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by GrandmasterSwagggC.I:
I know thouse basics m8. Thank you for this tho :p.
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:

I see too much battlefury PA in pubs.
Battle fury should only be bought if:-
1) You are against an illusion heavy hero such as meepo or Lancer
2) You and your team intend to farm and you get battlefury PRE 18 MINS
3) You have an allied hero that can change the postioning of the enemy such as Dark seer, Magnus or Enigma
Sorry, just thought I would bring it up c:
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