Riki's invis almost undispellable?

[King Kitty]

A few hours ago i noticed in a game that Doom's ult DOOM (deals damage over time, silences) didnt dispel riki's invis. of course his low HP let me kill him often enough but it still bugs me that i cant really counter him if he's played well.

[Woody]

Well buy detection or heroes that provide true sight.

[Magic Mike]

has to do with the new 6.84 patch "Previously a small portion of passive abilities were disabled by Doom and some others by Hex. The Break mechanic is now responsible for this behavior, and previous passive abilities that Hex/Doom blocked (not items, abilities) are included in the list of abilities Break disables."

In few words they nerfed Hex and Doom, currently the only item that "Breaks" is Silver Edge....how did this nerf affected Doom and Hex? well an Hexed Void/ Phantom Assassin can still dodge, you may get stunned for attacking an Hexed Tiny, Hexed Huskar will have a crap ton of Magic resistance,and like your case, Hexed/Doom'd Riki can still turn invisible

[anarchy]

Doom doesn't disable a passive like rikis ult without an aghs, did you have one?

[West Taiwan]

Wards, Gem, or Dust. All of these things make riki's really terrible. Just don't feed him early on.

[Woody]

Początkowo opublikowane przez anarchy:

Doom doesn't disable a passive like rikis ult without an aghs, did you have one?

I think riki invis is one of the passives which don't get disabled by breaks so doom aghs may not work.
Yeah breaks don't stop it; http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Break

[anarchy]

Doom used to block permanent invisibility regardless of aghs, and the part in Cpt. Walker's comment above is from the patch notes, where it says all abilities that used to be blocked by doom or hex for no real reason are now included in the break mechanic

[A Street Sweeper]

Początkowo opublikowane przez woody36:

Początkowo opublikowane przez anarchy:

Doom doesn't disable a passive like rikis ult without an aghs, did you have one?

I think riki invis is one of the passives which don't get disabled by breaks so doom aghs may not work.
Yeah breaks don't stop it; http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Break

Huh, good to know.

[King Kitty]

Well that defeats the purpose of me playing Doom in public matches :P

[Mercy]

Początkowo opublikowane przez PyreBird:

A few hours ago i noticed in a game that Doom's ult DOOM (deals damage over time, silences) didnt dispel riki's invis. of course his low HP let me kill him often enough but it still bugs me that i cant really counter him if he's played well.

Get dust. If you get the doom on him, especially an upgraded aghs doom, you dust him, he cannot dispell it with diffusal and well he dies because he is not exactly the tankiest of heroes.

[Fear]

Or just do some dmg to him before hitting ult? same thing for legion you dont initiate with a duel (in most cases).

[Weird Grim]

so now i only pick doom for storm

[Woody]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Weird Grim:

so now i only pick doom for storm

Or the multitude of other heroes that hate to be silenced.

[LSD]

Doom silences.
Riki's passive is no longer disabled by being silenced.

That's why Doom no longer stops him going invisible.

[Hex: Event is Misery]

Początkowo opublikowane przez woody36:

Well buy detection or heroes that provide true sight.

Początkowo opublikowane przez LSD:

Doom silences.
Riki's passive is no longer disabled by being silenced.

That's why Doom no longer stops him going invisible.

Doom + Aghs = Disabled Passives
Henceforth disable Perma-Invis?

[Woody]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Goen 2 TI5 TigerKirby215:

Początkowo opublikowane przez woody36:

Well buy detection or heroes that provide true sight.

Początkowo opublikowane przez LSD:

Doom silences.
Riki's passive is no longer disabled by being silenced.

That's why Doom no longer stops him going invisible.

Doom + Aghs = Disabled Passives
Henceforth disable Perma-Invis?

As I said above his invis is not affected by breaks.