Why is lycan so weak ?

[KTA.Silhouette]

this hero even though he has the fasted movement speed, how come it's still so hard to kill enemy. he enemy could just run away from him when he is a wolf. run around the tree and stuff. he just cant kill anyone without abyss. His summon wold are a disadvantage too because they ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ block the way, let alone the book that summon 2 monster. ucker blobk the way

[BNDN]

引用自 Azelka：

引用自 Phoenix Sun：

because he has sb and sy and dragon form

SB gives 20%, and SnY gives 16%. He will only move at max with these if SB is active, and he has BoTs.

Even then he'll still be short by about 20

[Azelka]

引用自 Spark (Not Bob Biford)：

引用自 Azelka：

SB gives 20%, and SnY gives 16%. He will only move at max with these if SB is active, and he has BoTs.

Even then he'll still be short by about 20

Anyways, we'll need the match ID to ensure no other factors.

[Tarious]

valve said ♥♥♥♥ balance along time ago. This was extreme apparent with the ursa and ratting buffs in 6.84 and the introduction of so many new items.

[vinh]

引用自 Tarious：

valve said ♥♥♥♥ balance along time ago. This was extreme apparent with the ursa and ratting buffs in 6.84 and the introduction of so many new items.

bro, do you even dota

[BNDN]

引用自 Tarious：

valve said ♥♥♥♥ balance along time ago. This was extreme apparent with the ursa and ratting buffs in 6.84 and the introduction of so many new items.

Hmm weird. Lets take this into noob terms so you can understand. Last patch we had people complaining axe, troll, sniper and jugg were OP along with the usual pudge and riki.
This patch we have people really only complaining about one hero, undying. Therefor by noob terms the game is more balanced because 1 OP hero is less than 4 OP heroes.

[Azelka]

引用自 SL.OldManJenkins：

引用自 Tarious：

valve said ♥♥♥♥ balance along time ago. This was extreme apparent with the ursa and ratting buffs in 6.84 and the introduction of so many new items.

bro, do you even dota

He's serious. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=360261826

[Amplifier]

OH NOH.
NUBS BI INSULTN' MAH MAINZ?!
AIN'T HAVING NONE OF THAT ♥♥♥♥♥.

Anywho, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ here with Lycan as my second most-played, and a 64% win rate with 25 games. (Wait, I have 25 games as Lycan? Christ.)
http://steamcommunity.com/id/PoniOfTheStars/inventory/#570_2_2239436521
http://steamcommunity.com/id/PoniOfTheStars/inventory/#570_2_2239440724

Reading your post I can observe the following that you're doing wrong:

• "this hero even though he has the fasted movement speed," In Wolf form, with his Ult. Bloodseeker can actually run faster, at that.
  
• "how come it's still so hard to kill enemy." You are clearly not building damage or something if you can't kill the enemy. Is there a Bane or Razor sapping your damage? If so, try grabbing Howl. It's a global ability that grants all Heroes and Summons a nice damage bonus.
  
• There's one of three things I can assume you're saying when you say "he enemy could just run away from him when he is a wolf." Either the enemy TPed away from you, in which case you build Basher/Abbysal/MKB, the enemy is Spirit Breaker or Bloodseeker, in which case build Basher/Abbysal, or you're running away from the enemy at low health, which isn't bad, but not too good. Please English better so I can give you a better answer.
  
• "run around the tree and stuff." So jungle/tree juking? You're having problems with one of the simplest concepts in the game? I'm sorry you just need to git gud. You have Wolves at that, which can give vision. There's nothing more that I can say other than "git gud" and use Wolves for vision.
  
• "His summon wold are a disadvantage too because they ♥♥♥♥ing block the way, let alone the book that summon 2 monster." What? Wolves run faster than (Base) Lycan, and will usually be in-front of you when you pop your Ult. (Your 2 second cast animation doesn't affect the dogs) Not only that, but the things have a pretty damn small hitbox. Yes, in some very tight areas they can screw with body-blocking, but they can also body-block the enemy. (And being invisible and all can make body-blocking with dogs quite amusing) This is likewise true with Necronomicon (AKA Necrobook). The summons have a rather small hit-box, and will usually not body-block you since they'll be in front of you.

Reading this over I realize that this is written by someone who either needs to git gud or is b8ing m8ing.

Reading this comment:

引用自 SL.OldManJenkins：

At this point, I'm sure the OP is a troll. I've seen the OP post other threads which were obvious bait

I realized it was gr8 b8.

No don't do it again. I h8 when people insult my bebi Wolf.
"Now shut up and let me rip your lungs out of your chest." - Description of my Wolf Form

[KTA.Silhouette]

引用自 SL.OldManJenkins：

引用自 Phoenix Sun：

because he has sb and sy and dragon form

He only gets the bonus movespeed if he activates the shadowblade, so why were you chasing him if he was invis? And how do you know his movespeed if he was invis?

because i have necro...

[Deepbluediver]

引用自 Phoenix Sun：

because i have necro...

Then you should have ignored him and been pushing the rax. There is more to the game than your KDA ratio and some heroes are better at one thing than other heroes. Of course Lycan is going to seem week if you don't play him right.

[Multi]

引用自 Ultimatium：

Lycan is garbage this patch, arguably the hero with the most flaws and weaknesses and no major strengths. Gets outpushed by windranger, lesh, etc., is countered by ghost-scepter if you build him for fighting, gets outcarried lategame by most other carries, gets shut down by bloodsekker, spirit breaker, etc. if he tries to push, is retardedly squishy for a melee hero, has a 1.5 seconds self-stun on his ultimate, to be fairly honest they shoulda just removed him from the game instead of nerfing him, the hero is pointless in this patch.

back when this post was made he was a little weak. He's a tiny bit stronger this patch after several buffs.

If you're going to necro at least check the date so you know if you're saying something relevant. come on.

[BNDN]

引用自 Ultimatium：

Lycan is garbage this patch, arguably the hero with the most flaws and weaknesses and no major strengths. Gets outpushed by windranger, lesh, etc., is countered by ghost-scepter if you build him for fighting, gets outcarried lategame by most other carries, gets shut down by bloodsekker, spirit breaker, etc. if he tries to push, is r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d.l.y squishy for a melee hero, has a 1.5 seconds self-stun on his ultimate, to be fairly honest they shoulda just removed him from the game instead of nerfing him, the hero is pointless in this patch.

First of all nice necro.

Second of all if you think a wr or lesh can push faster than lycan you're a dumbass.

And third he is not garbage. He has a 50.9% wr this patch and a 54% wr in 5k+. He is able to farm insanely fast in the first 20 minutes while pushing lanes and then can transition into a good mid game carry.