So i was Reddit searching and found this

[DontEatSmurfs]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2n92qs/raising_awareness_about_dota_2_hacks/

did any of you guys found anything strange like that?
i played with this WR who was insta hexing everyone before we could even show up in TFs
after a while i read about this...and it was quite something for me, i was like "finally a game where i can play without those AHOLES"

[Noun]

There is a such thing as a reaction hack that automaticlly casts spells, uses items ETC. They get picked up by VAC pretty quick and get taken out in the ban waves.

[Exceptional]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von noun creature:

There is a such thing as a reaction hack that automaticlly casts spells, uses items ETC. They get picked up by VAC pretty quick and get taken out in the ban waves.

that false.

Ensage is VAC proof.

[DontEatSmurfs]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von noun creature:

There is a such thing as a reaction hack that automaticlly casts spells, uses items ETC. They get picked up by VAC pretty quick and get taken out in the ban waves.

well, avoiding a vac ban is quite easy, the dev who made this program just need to update and there you go
anti vac software online, like the reddit post point out, its a cat and mouse thing, valve bans thousands of accs, thats cool they will create a new acc and do it again

[Noun]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von arrowhurt?what?:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von noun creature:

There is a such thing as a reaction hack that automaticlly casts spells, uses items ETC. They get picked up by VAC pretty quick and get taken out in the ban waves.

that false.

Ensage is VAC proof.

Ensage is not VAC proof. Any external program that connects to dota 2 gets picked up by VAC.

[DontEatSmurfs]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von noun creature:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von arrowhurt?what?:

that false.

Ensage is VAC proof.

Ensage is not VAC proof. Any external program that connects to dota 2 gets picked up by VAC.

any hack can be VAC proof...look at CS:GO right now...flooding with cheaters

[iPunkBuster]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von noun creature:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von arrowhurt?what?:

that false.

Ensage is VAC proof.

Ensage is not VAC proof. Any external program that connects to dota 2 gets picked up by VAC.

I havent use that app but ive read some post on other thread on some forum about it, some users complain that their dota 2 account got banned lelz

[Noun]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DontEatSmurfs:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von noun creature:

Ensage is not VAC proof. Any external program that connects to dota 2 gets picked up by VAC.

any hack can be VAC proof...look at CS:GO right now...flooding with cheaters

The cheats are not VAC proof, they are just undetected for a certain amount of time, a hack will be "VAC proof" for a couple of weeks and then bam, everyone who used it is banned.

[Exceptional]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von noun creature:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von arrowhurt?what?:

that false.

Ensage is VAC proof.

Ensage is not VAC proof. Any external program that connects to dota 2 gets picked up by VAC.

DUDE,get your fact,ensage disable vac,try it on a smurf account.Tssk,those peoples*,just pathetic.

[DontEatSmurfs]

i believe that some updates can make vac not being disable for third party programs but anyway, i think that if the software is getting regular updates at least the inner cicle of users, the ones that are closer to the dev will always be free from getting VAC banned

[Noun]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DontEatSmurfs:

i believe that some updates can make vac not being disable for third party programs but anyway, i think that if the software is getting regular updates at least the inner cicle of users, the ones that are closer to the dev will always be free from getting VAC banned

That will only happen if a small number of people use the hack.

[Ragnaman]

Wow, I had no idea such ♥♥♥♥ exists.
I hope Valve will perform audit trail on game history (with a smart software they can find replays that have unrealistic APM - actions per minute, or skill coordinate usage vs mouse coordinate location - ez, then with found games they can analyse the replays).

Anyone found using this ♥♥♥♥ should be perma banned from steam.

[Noun]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von EDT.Ragnaman:

Wow, I had no idea such ♥♥♥♥ exists.
I hope Valve will perform audit trail on game history (with a smart software they can find replays that have unrealistic APM - actions per minute, or skill coordinate usage vs mouse coordinate location - ez).

Anyone found using this ♥♥♥♥ should be perma banned from steam.

VAC already checks everyones games for external software.

[Alpaca Rotorvator]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von EDT.Ragnaman:

Wow, I had no idea such ♥♥♥♥ exists.
I hope Valve will perform audit trail on game history (with a smart software they can find replays that have unrealistic APM - actions per minute, or skill coordinate usage vs mouse coordinate location - ez, then with found games they can analyse the replays).

Anyone found using this ♥♥♥♥ should be perma banned from steam.

Valve doesn't even have the storage capacity to keep replays for more than a week, let alone computational power to parse through all of them looking for complex patterns(or, judging by the amount of item farming bots, even not so complex ones).

[DontEatSmurfs]

so, there is ANY way for us players to get rid of those cheaters?
i mean...for some players i quite a big deal if you are playing ranked mode against cheaters,
where i can draw the line for the time when im being a bad player against someone who is really cheating through the whole game ?, because its hard even for me to believe that someone had an APM so high and is not a cheater

[Ragnaman]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Das Kängaroo ist geboingboing:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von EDT.Ragnaman:

Wow, I had no idea such ♥♥♥♥ exists.
I hope Valve will perform audit trail on game history (with a smart software they can find replays that have unrealistic APM - actions per minute, or skill coordinate usage vs mouse coordinate location - ez, then with found games they can analyse the replays).

Anyone found using this ♥♥♥♥ should be perma banned from steam.

Valve doesn't even have the storage capacity to keep replays for more than a week, let alone computational power to parse through all of them looking for complex patterns(or, judging by the amount of item farming bots, even not so complex ones).

You don't need to store ALL the replays,
Just the ones with strange patterns.

Computational power ? To parse a text log ?
Please...


The replay data already shows mouse location and movement, an algorithm that tracks dubious user behaviour can be written.
Once the replay is saved a parser runs through it and flags the replay if bad material is found.
A larger batch process can run on flagged material and detailed reports made, detailed reports are analysed manually by the team that develops VAC.

If Valve is really interested in curing this problem, they are doing something along those lines already.