Dota 2
Path Of Pain May 3, 2015 @ 10:23pm
What is the point of the secret-shop-only items exactly?
If there is soemthing I miss (a lot) from HoN, is that you can buy anything you want in your base shop. It made the item building so much fast and practical.

In Dota 2, you have secret shop only items, and seems like they moved the plate that makes the Cuirass to the secret shop now.. what a PITA!.

I mean, secret shops (and side shops) are useful, but, what is the point of not being able to buy everything in your base shop?....

Come on Valve... get rid of that restriction already.
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Deadweight May 3, 2015 @ 10:25pm 
Ready your popcorn, boys.
Ryugo May 3, 2015 @ 10:26pm 
Cause divine rapiers are a thing, also you cant just remove something that has been in the game since dota1 which wasn't run by valve at the time.
The main purpose of the secret shop is to move important items for the completion of late game items OUT of the base.

It's meant to be a burden, which serve a purpose of making it more difficult to turtle - farm safely in base until you have all the items to out carry the other team.

Potentially, when you're down to base and your last towers, it forces you to either walk to the secret shop for your items or risk the courier.
xboct May 3, 2015 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by Scrumdiddlyumptious:
The main purpose of the secret shop is to move important items for the completion of late game items OUT of the base.

It's meant to be a burden, which serve a purpose of making it more difficult to turtle - farm safely in base until you have all the items to out carry the other team.

Potentially, when you're down to base and your last towers, it forces you to either walk to the secret shop for your items or risk the courier.
sometimes the courier taking the fall is still better than going out for the items, if it reaches the shop first that is, then you only need to wait 3 min
「Choobs」 May 3, 2015 @ 11:15pm 
Originally posted by Scrumdiddlyumptious:
The main purpose of the secret shop is to move important items for the completion of late game items OUT of the base.

It's meant to be a burden, which serve a purpose of making it more difficult to turtle - farm safely in base until you have all the items to out carry the other team.

Potentially, when you're down to base and your last towers, it forces you to either walk to the secret shop for your items or risk the courier.

Basically this. If you are defending the high ground you have a constant stream of creeps, and therefore a constant stream of gold. If you could purchase any item in the base, the comeback potential would be too strong because of all the free farm you receive. Having certain items located away from your base forces you to either leave your base, thus sacrificing defense, or send your courier, risking it's death and giving a ton of gold to the enemy team.

Imagine pushing against an enemy sniper. He sits back and kills the creeps, builds a Mjollnir and a Daedalus and proceeds to wipe your team by himself. Your team just got punished for trying to win the game.

Even disregarding the defense example, the secret shop makes moving around the map and taking risks a necessity if you ever want to build powerful items.
Path Of Pain May 4, 2015 @ 11:12am 
You have a point, it indeed makes turtling more difficult if you can't leave your base to finish your most powerful items. However, it creates an artificial barrier of difficulty when you just want to build your items.
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Date Posted: May 3, 2015 @ 10:23pm
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