Axe Isn't a Carry

[54321z]

He isn't.

So when you Cull the enemy seven hundred times, you're only setting up your Beyond Godlike Spree to be ended by the enemy carry. When that happens, you lose.

Doing well as Axe can be very frustrating.

[Bytemancer]

You mean when you cull the enemy carry who dares challenge your manliness you continue your spree?

[Island E]

Blademail

[Journey]

I agree 100%, Axe has one of the worst ults in the game, all it does is steals kills but unlike the biggest ks in the game (necro) the benefit of killstealing isnt as significant as well as the fact that Axe cant carry.

[lumina]

Well yeah. Axe has always been a semi carry. I'm not sure why this needs pointed out.

[LeanBodyMass]

semi carry

[KazaaakPlethKilik]

Originally posted by lumina:

Well yeah. Axe has always been a semi carry. I'm not sure why this needs pointed out.

well, some people play him like a carry. great early/mid game initiator, but falls off late...

About CB, without it, Axe wouldn't get kills. at all. not a great ult, but definitly has its uses...

[ChemicalBacon]

He has always been a semi carry because he needs some items to become useful late game such as blink dagger and blademail

[Kyzael]

All I can suggest is getting Shiva's and AC. Shiva for Mana and AC for basically a AOE version of Desolator so Counter Helix hits harder.

[KazaaakPlethKilik]

Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:

He has always been a semi carry because he needs some items to become useful late game such as blink dagger and blademail

blink. why go blademail when berserker cry = 40 armour... i mean, i knwo you wont always have it up, but if anything, blademail makes people LESS likely to attack you > less likely to Helix...

i mean, i guess there is magic nukes, but even so... makes it a situational pickup at least...

[ChemicalBacon]

Originally posted by KazaaakPlethKilik:

Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:

He has always been a semi carry because he needs some items to become useful late game such as blink dagger and blademail

blink. why go blademail when berserker cry = 40 armour... i mean, i knwo you wont always have it up, but if anything, blademail makes people LESS likely to attack you > less likely to Helix...

i mean, i guess there is magic nukes, but even so... makes it a situational pickup at least...

Because you force hard hitters like PA, Void, etc. to hit you and take additional damage.

It also gives you a small amount of mana regen

[The Bored Chairman]

Culling Blade does have its uses. Removing Shallow Grave for example.

But yeah, Axe should only be using CB early/mid. Late game, he should take on the role of initiator, Blink-Berserker's Call-Blade Mail. It's a great combo and it keeps your team relatively safe.

The biggest problem though, is when you get a bad team. Jumping in like that, you're trusting your team to help. It's very frustrating when they all run off and you die.

[KsoChZ]

Axe is more of a semi-carry / initiator and is basically an initiator support in the late game.

[achus93]

Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:

Originally posted by KazaaakPlethKilik:

blink. why go blademail when berserker cry = 40 armour... i mean, i knwo you wont always have it up, but if anything, blademail makes people LESS likely to attack you > less likely to Helix...

i mean, i guess there is magic nukes, but even so... makes it a situational pickup at least...

Because you force hard hitters like PA, Void, etc. to hit you and take additional damage.

It also gives you a small amount of mana regen

^

[54321z]

Originally posted by The Bored Chairman:

Culling Blade does have its uses. Removing Shallow Grave for example.

But yeah, Axe should only be using CB early/mid. Late game, he should take on the role of initiator, Blink-Berserker's Call-Blade Mail. It's a great combo and it keeps your team relatively safe.

The biggest problem though, is when you get a bad team. Jumping in like that, you're trusting your team to help. It's very frustrating when they all run off and you die.

+1 Agreed.

Axe isn't a carry, and this is no surprise to me (and shouldn't be to anyone who's played the game long enough) but Culling Blade is an encouragement if i've ever seen one to take the last hit.

[Dum]

I enjoy Axe early/mid if some people attempt to gank me after I take down Tier 1 tower of my lane. Sometimes I get so fed I can culling blade my enemies when they are at half health and I love it. But I agree he falls off somewhat from this terror, late game.