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Kimber Prime 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 10:34
Anyone got tips for support Sven?
I like learning all the supports I can't play yet and since Sven support is a thing I want to learn it. However, I don't really know what to build on him. I guess items like Mek, drums, etc are always good but what else are good support items for Sven? Ags seems like a good one for support Sven.

With his skill build I guess you would ignore cleave and focus mainly on his q and e (plus ult whenever), or is there a better way?

Any tips/tricks for support Sven would be appreciated before I take him for a spin in bot matches and then pubs. Google has given me some ideas already but more advice is always good. =)
最後修改者:Kimber Prime; 2014 年 10 月 22 日 上午 12:32
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White Jam of Terror 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:11 
引用自 Kimber Prime
引用自 mad. Bakes
support sven, now ive heard everything
Go read his roles (next to his name).
http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/sven

Because there is a tag for you to read

Doesnt mean it has to be that way

Look at most succesful item there are Daedalus with 70% winrate and Assualt Cuirass as 74 %

and you still tell me you want to play him as support

Dont get me wrong dude you can play sven as support but It would be more super fun as carry sven
Kimber Prime 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:16 
引用自 Thou Shall Not Kill
引用自 Kimber Prime
Go read his roles (next to his name).
http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/sven

Because there is a tag for you to read

Doesnt mean it has to be that way

Look at most succesful item there are Daedalus with 70% winrate and Assualt Cuirass as 74 %

and you still tell me you want to play him as support

Dont get me wrong dude you can play sven as support but It would be more super fun as carry sven
Just because you say it doesn't have to be a certain way

doesn't mean I can't try it

assault cuirass is occasionally picked up by rich supports

I play support 90% of the time but occasionally in really long games supports become less useful so Sven's transition will make useful then

See how annoying this is too read btw?
76561198111783271 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:21 
Support Sven is kinda like support Tiny. You will need blink dagger to initiate, buy mana boots/ soul ring for your mana needs. Dont buy mek because his mana pool cant support it.

引用自 Thou Shall Not Kill
引用自 Kimber Prime
Go read his roles (next to his name).
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Because there is a tag for you to read

Doesnt mean it has to be that way

Look at most succesful item there are Daedalus with 70% winrate and Assualt Cuirass as 74 %

and you still tell me you want to play him as support

Dont get me wrong dude you can play sven as support but It would be more super fun as carry sven

I agree with him. Support sven is cool, but he shines more at hard carrying. Plus his mana pool is really suck for him to support.
White Jam of Terror 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:22 
引用自 Kimber Prime
引用自 Thou Shall Not Kill

Because there is a tag for you to read

Doesnt mean it has to be that way

Look at most succesful item there are Daedalus with 70% winrate and Assualt Cuirass as 74 %

and you still tell me you want to play him as support

Dont get me wrong dude you can play sven as support but It would be more super fun as carry sven
Just because you say it doesn't have to be a certain way

doesn't mean I can't try it

assault cuirass is occasionally picked up by rich supports

I play support 90% of the time but occasionally in really long games supports become less useful so Sven's transition will make useful then

See how annoying this is too read btw?

I tried that not long time ago

My best 3 heroes are Dazzle, Silencer and Lion. So basiclly I'm a supporter

You want to play support sven for like 10 games and suddenly realize that " oh I should have go carry "

Be my guest man

最後修改者:White Jam of Terror; 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:23
Kimber Prime 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:23 
@RoadTo0.9K
The thing is that I enjoy support a lot more but want to try a hero that transitions from support to carry. Sven seems like a good hero for this cause I'm not an alc fan.
最後修改者:Kimber Prime; 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:24
achus93 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:27 
one point in the stun, and then max Warcry.
Blink Dagger as the first core item is a must as an initiator.
Agh's is a lategame support item for him.
you can get Arcane Boots, but if someone else already got it, just get Treads.

really, all he needs is a Blink Dagger as a support, other items allow him to transition into a late game carry (thus allowing 4 cores)
Angie 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:27 
sven support is really useful now update with sceptre free damage for team and hard carry. plus bonus ms and as. need blink for sure. and initial stun and war-cry than up ulti. roam if u can with smoke. arcane might be good idea for sven if u play support, then base on the enemy drum, pipe or chimera guard. sceptre is really good for late game. vo, ac or shivas is good for late. disarm also good idea if u up against void or sniper which is really annoying in battle
Kimber Prime 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:30 
@Thou Shall Not Kill
Sigh... If you'd actually read my post you'd read that I want to learn it, so whether it's good or bad I'll decide later. I support a ton but don't carry much so Sven would be a good one to try. I don't care if you think it's a weird idea. Some weird ideas work better that the 'normal' ones. I never said "Sven is support and nothing else!" but you are saying that he's only carry which isn't true either. What does it matter that I want to try support Sven in bots first and then in pub matches? It's been done so it's not impossible. You need to loosen up a bit cause some heroes can be played in more than 1 way, even if some ways work better than others in certain situations.
最後修改者:Kimber Prime; 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:31
achus93 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:30 
oh, just to add:
other items that would work on support Sven are Urn and Medallion.

also, to note, a support Sven works best as a roaming support, setting up kills around the map.
achus93 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:32 
引用自 Kimber Prime
@Thou Shall Not Kill
Sigh... If you'd actually read my post you'd read that I want to learn it, so whether it's good or bad I'll decide later. I support a ton but don't carry much so Sven would be a good one to try. I don't care if you think it's a weird idea. Some weird ideas work better that the 'normal' ones. I never said "Sven is support and nothing else!" but you are saying that he's only carry which isn't true either. What does it matter that I want to try support Sven in bots first and then in pub matches? It's been done so it's not impossible. You need to loosen up a bit cause some heroes can be played in more than 1 way, even if some ways work better than others.
just ignore him.
if he's so ignorant and close minded that he can't even think that support Sven won't work, then let him.
it's not gonna change the fact that Sven makes a decent support.
Angie 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:34 
引用自 Kimber Prime
@Thou Shall Not Kill
Sigh... If you'd actually read my post you'd read that I want to learn it, so whether it's good or bad I'll decide later. I support a ton but don't carry much so Sven would be a good one to try. I don't care if you think it's a weird idea. Some weird ideas work better that the 'normal' ones. I never said "Sven is support and nothing else!" but you are saying that he's only carry which isn't true either. What does it matter that I want to try support Sven in bots first and then in pub matches? It's been done so it's not impossible. You need to loosen up a bit cause some heroes can be played in more than 1 way, even if some ways work better than others in certain situations.
he just noob...just ignore
最後修改者:Angie; 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:34
Kimber Prime 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:34 
^Yup agreed with both the posts above me. Guess I am kinda wasting my time with him so thx to all the posts which were actually helpful. I'll be sure to try it with bots and then in pubs if the correct situation arrives. =)
最後修改者:Kimber Prime; 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:35
76561198111783271 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:35 
引用自 Kimber Prime
@RoadTo0.9K
The thing is that I enjoy support a lot more but want to try a hero that transitions from support to carry. Sven seems like a good hero for this cause I'm not an alc fan.

Then you must build the right way for him to support. I'm not sure about the build, but if you really wanna go support with him, imho :
1. Max 1st and 3rd skill, and ult
2. Take/max stats instead of cleave (take cleave last, since you are not carrying, stats are more important for your mana need)
3. Mana boots, drums (important! if no one build this), blink dagger.

Basically this :

引用自 Ultimation
sven support is really useful now update with sceptre free damage for team and hard carry. plus bonus ms and as. need blink for sure. and initial stun and war-cry than up ulti. roam if u can with smoke. arcane might be good idea for sven if u play support, then base on the enemy drum, pipe or chimera guard. sceptre is really good for late game. vo, ac or shivas is good for late. disarm also good idea if u up against void or sniper which is really annoying in battle
>chimera guard - wait wut? you mean crimson guard?

But max stats instead of cleave. Stats is much more important than cleave if you go support with him.
Angie 2014 年 10 月 21 日 下午 11:40 
引用自 RoadTo0.9K
引用自 Kimber Prime
@RoadTo0.9K
The thing is that I enjoy support a lot more but want to try a hero that transitions from support to carry. Sven seems like a good hero for this cause I'm not an alc fan.

Then you must build the right way for him to support. I'm not sure about the build, but if you really wanna go support with him, imho :
1. Max 1st and 3rd skill, and ult
2. Take/max stats instead of cleave (take cleave last, since you are not carrying, stats are more important for your mana need)
3. Mana boots, drums (important! if no one build this), blink dagger.

Basically this :

引用自 Ultimation
sven support is really useful now update with sceptre free damage for team and hard carry. plus bonus ms and as. need blink for sure. and initial stun and war-cry than up ulti. roam if u can with smoke. arcane might be good idea for sven if u play support, then base on the enemy drum, pipe or chimera guard. sceptre is really good for late game. vo, ac or shivas is good for late. disarm also good idea if u up against void or sniper which is really annoying in battle
>chimera guard - wait wut? you mean crimson guard?

But max stats instead of cleave. Stats is much more important than cleave if you go support with him.
sry mistake with monster hunter LOL
White Jam of Terror 2014 年 10 月 22 日 上午 12:02 
Cool now I'm noob

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/971154763

This was the last match that I use sven as tanker

other team line up will give you idea how much pain and agony to play in this match

Doom was in jungle all game, NVM mid failed then farm later all game, Rubick well he just ward and fade bolt to steal money from carry.

My point is you can go support if you like. How about late game if your carry cant farm ?

You will have support item with high DPS when you activated godmode but no ATK speed anyways.

If the replay system is not ruined you will see in the game that I tank all game for other carry to get their kill

I'm a noob sup sven

so what ?




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