To people thinking "Mid should always gank the sidelanes"

[Broco]

This is plainly wrong. I recently got flamed a lot for not ganking the sidelanes when playing Storm Spirit.

Just so you know, there is a reason for heroes being called Carry or not. Storm Spirit is a typical Mid hero who is considered to be a "2", meaning he is a carry and needs the 2nd most farm after the hardcarry who farms the safelane, guarded by 1 or 2 supports, 3 being the offlaner, 4 being a support who needs a key item (e.g. an Earth Shaker or Sand King who need a Blink dagger) and the 5 being the ward b1tch (Crystal Maiden, Mirana, etc.).

Normally, both supports can and should be roaming mid to disturb the enemy mid hero.

This does not mean that the mid hero shouldn't attack if the enemy team pressure a tower or go for an easy kill, this just means that it's WAY more valuable for the team if your mid SS (or Sniper or whatever) farms up his key items and even stays there if your lanes aren't working THAT well.

Especially at higher skill levels a ganking mid hero always requires smoke, which in return delays his farm. There ARE mid heroes however who should gank sidelanes, prime example is Pudge because he is just level dependent and not farm dependent (meaning, once he hits level 7 he has a max range hook + his ult which should result in a kill if you land a hook). Same goes for a Nyx mid, etc.

Still, those heroes need a certain level, so complaining about a level 4 Pudge not ganking is just pathetic.

So just chill and let your mid carry farm unless you really need help because of getting ganked by the whole enemy team or there is a guaranteed kill opportunity.

[Tric]

引用自 Fijut：

generally what makes a hero a mid hero is the ability to gank if they reach level 6 earlier than the rest of the team. That's one reason anyway.

And Storm Spirit is built for ganking regardless - you fail if you dont gank lol

Not true (entirely). The mid lane is made for a hero that needs farm AND levels to be effective. A level advantage typically leads to a strong gank, because you are naturally a higher level due to solo exp and a few items due to no one contesting farm. This is why Mids are typically a 2 role and peak mid game and tend to fall off later.

[Broco]

引用自 Tric：

引用自 Fijut：

generally what makes a hero a mid hero is the ability to gank if they reach level 6 earlier than the rest of the team. That's one reason anyway.

And Storm Spirit is built for ganking regardless - you fail if you dont gank lol

Not true (entirely). The mid lane is made for a hero that needs farm AND levels to be effective. A level advantage typically leads to a strong gank, because you are naturally a higher level due to solo exp and a few items due to no one contesting farm. This is why Mids are typically a 2 role and peak mid game and tend to fall off later.

This is completely wrong. Would you say a Tidehunter who is offlane falls of later? No. His Blink-Ravage is one of the strongest initiations throughout the game, same goes for Enigma. He can't solokill an enemy hardcarry like an AM but he allows your carry to kill the enemy carry.

SF and Storm Spirit are Strong throughout the game. And regarding this other guy who said I suck if I don't use Storm Spirit to gank before I have my crucial items up I can just answer with some games I played (and stomped) by playing the way I played:

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1431043332 Went 30-4 and carried against a PL (High Skill Bracket)
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1432795223 21-2 vs AM, QoP and Viper (Normal Skill Bracket)

Storm is a carry and he doesn't fall off too much lategame. I would say he peaks a little bit earlier than let's say an AM/Medusa/PL/Naga but when you play him right he completely destroys the other team with the right amount of farm.

I never said I don't gank I just said I don't gank without having one of my core items up UNLESS there is a good opportunity.
I always get a TP and in case the enemy team attacks a tower I go in guns blazing but I don't sacrifice a huge amount of farm for the possibility of getting an early kill on another lane but mid because it hurts my team.

Storm Spirit is built for ganking, yes. but he needs mana regeneration to do so and for that you need items. You can Tp from fountain, immediately use bottle, zip in, use soul ring and get a kill or 2 but after that you're dry, no mana left.

[Ace]

Why should u gank on the side lanes lol, u like only got more xp then ur other teamates and they relie on u too do it mostly, Just keep urself in the middle, there is no need for teamplay(y)

[Deadbubble]

引用自 Holy Hippo：

Why should u gank on the side lanes lol, u like only got more xp then ur other teamates and they relie on u too do it mostly, Just keep urself in the middle, there is no need for teamplay(y)

Uh, no, thats not how you play DotA 2. Its never a good idea to just abandon a lane and let it fall.

[vongogh]

I think people understand what mid should go gank and what hero should just stay and farm. The problem is if a lane is beat down bad, people tend to be whiny and entitled and blame-y.

[Dr Wo0oho0O0o]

引用自 Fijut：

generally what makes a hero a mid hero is the ability to gank if they reach level 6 earlier than the rest of the team. That's one reason anyway.

And Storm Spirit is built for ganking regardless - you fail if you dont gank lol

I totally agree with that. If you got a good ultimate with a mid hero you can often get a kill just because you 6 and the sidelanes arent.

[kitts]

Either you do a BSJ or a Waga. I prefer waga mids honestly.

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[TheIceCreamBoi]

It depend how the situation going ...should gank or you should not gank. When team fight is happen, you should help your teammate to eliminate all enemy instead of farming.

[hohaha]

What you saying is for default setting team, it will never work in pub games. Try mid farmer when you have Jungle farmer,safe farmer,offlane farmer. And if you pick midlane farmer too, who is gonna farm after game reaches min 10. Your whole argument is invalid. And dont try to tempt people for midlane farming. Mid is and should allways be a ganker one. Never a farmer.

All i wrote is for pub games, and most of us doesn't plays tournament doto