Relation between hidden mmr and ranked mmr(maybe)(solved)?

[Greenman hypercase.net]

It's not affecting each other anymore
Does "ranked match making mmr" and "hidden/normal match making" affect each other when the ranked match making is visible after 10 calibiration?

Because the information I found at the internet, especially from valve old post http://blog.dota2.com/2013/12/matchmaking/ the information told me that all of us already have mmr since we start playing and will be changed by match making game, and will be visible after 10 calibarting ranked match making. But the ranked mmr wouldnt be changed by normal match making.

Note : Theres a chance my question can be answered from valve's post but I just didn't read all the post, if so please tell me, and delete this post later on.

If the information about the discussion I start was fake, please tell me, and delete this post later on.

[clappa]

It does affect. Your unranked/hidden MMR is your starting MMR point for calibration games. Calibration games only means that you get a bit/lose more MMR when you win/lose calibration games.

So for example, if your unranked MMR is 3000. You win 6, lose 4, lets say you win 100 mmr (this is guesswork, but it should be higher than 25, which is normal MMR gain/lose for win/lose) for each and lose 100 mmr for a loss, that nets you 3200 Ranked MMR in the end.

After that your games will give or take about 25 MMR, depending on you winning or losing the match.

[eNeKaDula]

I think the main thing here is how long you have been playing, eg: you got 1 month playing dota 2, so when calibrating even if you win the 10 games you won't get further than 3.5k or so, cause you have been matched up with people with low mmr and less hours, if you are old dota 2 player I bet you can get much more mmr if you win the 10 games cause it should match you up with higher mmr players... this is my guess on experience and what I saw about other players....

[clappa]

Originally posted by KilltheBank_1984:

I think the main thing here is how long you have been playing, eg: you got 1 month playing dota 2, so when calibrating even if you win the 10 games you won't get further than 3.5k or so, cause you have been matched up with people with low mmr and less hours, if you are old dota 2 player I bet you can get much more mmr if you win the 10 games cause it should match you up with higher mmr players... this is my guess on experience and what I saw about other players....

It depends on how good you are, not how long you've played. Although usually people do get better with many hours invested but still.

[-Drac0-]

Your hidden MMR is used to determine where you start your TBD ranked games. After you play your first calibration game the two are completely separate and are calculated without one affecting the other.