why do I always get a really bad team?

[I like Miners]

seriously every game i do very very good my teammates always feed and do really badly.

[jay jay the dank planezinho]

because you are a trash team magnet

[Deepbluediver]

Well either

A) There's some vast conspiracy at work to keep you down
B) Your perceptions are wrong, and you're the same skill as everyone else

Post your dotabuff and I'll take a look.

[Lahel]

Originally posted by Rick_is_Life:

because you are a trash team magnet

lel

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Post your dotabuff and I'll take a look.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/132103154/matches

[Hyperion]

I have found a pattern, everytime you kill more, you lose the game. Try kill less and a bit of feeding. Then team-mates wont look so bad.

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by Acsvf:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/132103154/matches

Thanks, but I was hoping OP would make some effort himself.

Also, I don't know what to tell you OP- in your last 20 games your 12-8, so it seems like you are doing alright overall. Given that you apparently play mostly in the 2k-and-under skill bracket, there's a certain amount of incompetence to be expected from time to time. I'm looking at your most recent game, and the difference between your deaths (9) and the deaths of the person on your team with the most (Disruptor, 12) is 3, so it really doesn't seem like anyone fed that much. Besides you, your team doesn't really have any other hard carries, and I'm guessing that with all the ranged attacks the enemy had between WR, Drow, and Invoker, you just got outplayed.

Do you have a specific match you'd like to ask about?

[I like Miners]

Originally posted by Hyperion:

I have found a pattern, everytime you kill more, you lose the game. Try kill less and a bit of feeding. Then team-mates wont look so bad.

i try to play objectively but when they are all coming at our base I am forced to kill them.

[I like Miners]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by Acsvf:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/132103154/matches

Thanks, but I was hoping OP would make some effort himself.

Also, I don't know what to tell you OP- in your last 20 games your 12-8, so it seems like you are doing alright overall. Given that you apparently play mostly in the 2k-and-under skill bracket, there's a certain amount of incompetence to be expected from time to time. I'm looking at your most recent game, and the difference between your deaths (9) and the deaths of the person on your team with the most (Disruptor, 12) is 3, so it really doesn't seem like anyone fed that much. Besides you, your team doesn't really have any other hard carries, and I'm guessing that with all the ranged attacks the enemy had between WR, Drow, and Invoker, you just got outplayed.

Do you have a specific match you'd like to ask about?

I was going to post it but he already did http://www.dotabuff.com/players/132103154/matches

ty ascdvf for doing that for me another game as antimage before this one that was not counted because of poor network I went 25-1 in the end and I died ONE time and the other team killed the rest of our team and ended it on 30 seconds. I just dont understand how i rose in mmr then dropped back to where i was in the first place

[Woody]

Well you are in normal skill (which can be a generous term) so most people you see aren't going to be great. If you are better then you will be raised into higher skill over time.

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by Trash team magnet:

I was going to post it but he already did http://www.dotabuff.com/players/132103154/matches

Yes, I can see that, but what makes you think you're better than your teammates, particularly on a frequent basis?

You've got more kills and more GPM, but all you seem to play is hard carries. The heroes on your top-10 list are mainly things like Juggernaut, Legion Commander, Anti-Mage, PA, Dragon Knight, etc. If your farm wasn't good then you'd REALLY be doing bad.

By comparison, take a look at my Dotabuff: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/105440366
All I play is supports and my Kill-Death ratio is terrible, but I have a higher overall winrate. This would seem to indicate that FOR THIS BRACKET, my play-style is more effective at helping my team.

[zZzooey.exe]

Play in stacks.
You can literally solve your own problem.

Although, I wonder who do people like these blame for loss when they are in 5 man stack, people they chose themselves. Oh, rhetorical questions.

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by Zooey:

Play in stacks.
You can literally solve your own problem.

Although, I wonder who do people like these blame for loss when they are in 5 man stack, people they chose themselves. Oh, rhetorical questions.

Blame the friend everyone likes the least and then vote them off the island.

[zZzooey.exe]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by Zooey:

Play in stacks.
You can literally solve your own problem.

Although, I wonder who do people like these blame for loss when they are in 5 man stack, people they chose themselves. Oh, rhetorical questions.

Blame the friend everyone likes the least and then vote them off the island.

So apocalipse already is here, I didnt notice it.
Better earn my keep.

[I like Miners]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by Trash team magnet:

I was going to post it but he already did http://www.dotabuff.com/players/132103154/matches

Yes, I can see that, but what makes you think you're better than your teammates, particularly on a frequent basis?

You've got more kills and more GPM, but all you seem to play is hard carries. The heroes on your top-10 list are mainly things like Juggernaut, Legion Commander, Anti-Mage, PA, Dragon Knight, etc. If your farm wasn't good then you'd REALLY be doing bad.

By comparison, take a look at my Dotabuff: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/105440366
All I play is supports and my Kill-Death ratio is terrible, but I have a higher overall winrate. This would seem to indicate that FOR THIS BRACKET, my play-style is more effective at helping my team.

Okay this is what a normal game is like for me i tell my team to pick 2 supports if they dont want to then I will play support. When i play carry/hardcarry i ward our jungle block enemy camps and even deward I pull camps stack camps and ofeensively ward if needed. 80 percent of the time. When I tell my team to play objectively then all they do is go straight for the tower and walk right past the enemys and try to take the tower. I pick what my team needs not what I want to play but when I play support our carries always do worst than our teams supports which is why i dont ever play support and when I do I have more farm than our carrys which is really weird considering a treant protector has more gpm and last hits than a viper. Please give me tips on what to do I rose 500 mmr then lost 500 mmr in 3 days so what aim I doing wrong if someone wants to play with me and tell me what I am doing wrong I would glady accept any help I can get, ty

[RockSpoon]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by Trash team magnet:

I was going to post it but he already did http://www.dotabuff.com/players/132103154/matches

Yes, I can see that, but what makes you think you're better than your teammates, particularly on a frequent basis?

You've got more kills and more GPM, but all you seem to play is hard carries. The heroes on your top-10 list are mainly things like Juggernaut, Legion Commander, Anti-Mage, PA, Dragon Knight, etc. If your farm wasn't good then you'd REALLY be doing bad.

By comparison, take a look at my Dotabuff: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/105440366
All I play is supports and my Kill-Death ratio is terrible, but I have a higher overall winrate. This would seem to indicate that FOR THIS BRACKET, my play-style is more effective at helping my team.

The K/DR is a point most players don't get. I die a lot in teamfights, because I play in a manner than will get the most kills for my entire team, not just myself. And, often, I find that the enemy team designates me as the most dangerous player, and spends all their time ganking me. =.=

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by Trash team magnet:

Okay this is what a normal game is like for me i tell my team to pick 2 supports if they dont want to then I will play support. When i play carry/hardcarry i ward our jungle block enemy camps and even deward I pull camps stack camps and ofeensively ward if needed. 80 percent of the time. When I tell my team to play objectively then all they do is go straight for the tower and walk right past the enemys and try to take the tower. I pick what my team needs not what I want to play but when I play support our carries always do worst than our teams supports which is why i dont ever play support and when I do I have more farm than our carrys which is really weird considering a treant protector has more gpm and last hits than a viper. Please give me tips on what to do I rose 500 mmr then lost 500 mmr in 3 days so what aim I doing wrong if someone wants to play with me and tell me what I am doing wrong I would glady accept any help I can get, ty

Well, first of all, I don't play ranked-mode. I think it's stressful and not-fun, and contrary to all expectation, people seem even less open to teamwork and coordination than normal. It's all about the personal ego in that mode.

So if you're looking to have a good time- I suggest skipping it entirely. Your MMR is just a useless number that people use to massage their egos, and if you're not having fun with this game, what's the point of playing?

Secondly, try to find friends to play with. Even if you still lose it really eases the sting if there's someone you can commiserate with and who you know won't play like a total asshat. Just send out random friend requests to everyone who you play with who isn't a total jerk- try to find at least 1 per game. You're going for quantity here, at least at first. Then play a few more games with everyone who accepts and weed out anyone who you still don't like. With a little effort it's not hard to get a decent friend-list of people who you know will have a bare-minimum level of competency.


What servers do you usually queue on?