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infj

2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 10:48

PA HoTd>Maelstrom

Is going helm of the dom>drums>maelstrom on PA bad? Purge says he builds his PA vlads>drums>x, but I've tried going HotD>drum>maels and had good success. Is the overriding UAM too big of a deal to build HotD>MS? I like building that way because it leaves me open for a satanic.

最后由 infj 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 10:55

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Exceptional 拥有 Dota 2

(已封禁) 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:34

why maelstrom on agi hero seriously...buy butterfly.if oyu want more attack speed,buy your agi item and a moonshard..Like peoples with drow maelstrom and mask of suicide...terrible idea.Even more,the goal of PA is to have one shot crit.maelstrom don't help that;get your butterfly,seriously.

最后由 Exceptional 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:35

#16

infj

2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:37

引用自 FishyFishyFishy：
why maelstrom on agi hero seriously...buy butterfly.if oyu want more attack speed,buy your agi item and a moonshard..Like peoples with drow maelstrom and mask of suicide...terrible idea.Even more,the goal of PA is to have one shot crit.maelstrom don't help that;get your butterfly,seriously.

If you can tell me how to get a butterfly/MS at the 15:00 min mark I will. +dmg, +AS, cleave for TFing and farming.

最后由 infj 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:38

#17

Exceptional 拥有 Dota 2

(已封禁) 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:40

引用自 SiicKxShoTz：
引用自 FishyFishyFishy：
why maelstrom on agi hero seriously...buy butterfly.if oyu want more attack speed,buy your agi item and a moonshard..Like peoples with drow maelstrom and mask of suicide...terrible idea.Even more,the goal of PA is to have one shot crit.maelstrom don't help that;get your butterfly,seriously.

If you can tell me how to get a butterfly/MS at the 15:00 min mark I will. +dmg, +AS, cleave for TFing and farming.

you can get AC at 13 min dude.Butterfly 15 minute is possible.

最后由 Exceptional 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:41

#18

infj

2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:43

引用自 FishyFishyFishy：
引用自 SiicKxShoTz：

If you can tell me how to get a butterfly/MS at the 15:00 min mark I will. +dmg, +AS, cleave for TFing and farming.
you can get AC at 13 min dude.Butterfly 15 minute is possible.

Someone with more experience than me please tell this guy he is wack. Anyways I'd prefer not to be useless for the entire time I'm farming 3300 gold for an eaglesong.

最后由 infj 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:45

#19

SIA

2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:54

引用自 SiicKxShoTz：
引用自 FishyFishyFishy：
you can get AC at 13 min dude.Butterfly 15 minute is possible.

Someone with more experience than me please tell this guy he is wack. Anyways I'd prefer not to be useless for the entire time I'm farming 3300 gold for an eaglesong.

Well he is not wack if you are winning (REKTING) the early game and laning phase and have a near 1 kill per min its not impossible. Or with +700 gpm its not impossible.
These conditions are situational.

最后由 SIA 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:55

#20

infj

2015 年 5 月 24 日上午 11:56

引用自 SIA：
引用自 SiicKxShoTz：

Someone with more experience than me please tell this guy he is wack. Anyways I'd prefer not to be useless for the entire time I'm farming 3300 gold for an eaglesong.
Well he is not wack if you are winning (REKTING) the early game and laning phase and have a near 1 kill per min its not impossible. Or with +700 gpm its not impossible.

I'm sure it is possible, but from a game to game basis it's not typically feasible. And even still, rushing a butterfly? I bet that wouldn't even be better than the vlads>drum>maelstrom build. Maybe I'm wrong though.

#21

Purdurabu

2015 年 5 月 24 日下午 12:02

HOTD is just too useful on her to go vlads, Get it fairly early and you can use its active to stack jungle camps giving you a nice gold advantage . Not to mention that the 30% auto attack damage increase from the dire wolf alpha is a great buff to have in teamfights and lastly you can also use the dire wolf as a blink target to escape fights that go badly.

最后由 Purdurabu 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日下午 12:03

#22

SIA

2015 年 5 月 24 日下午 12:06

引用自 SiicKxShoTz：
引用自 SIA：
Well he is not wack if you are winning (REKTING) the early game and laning phase and have a near 1 kill per min its not impossible. Or with +700 gpm its not impossible.

I'm sure it is possible, but from a game to game basis it's not typically feasible. And even still, rushing a butterfly? I bet that wouldn't even be better than the vlads>drum>maelstrom build. Maybe I'm wrong though.

It is better if you can afford it early, ONLY if the opponents don't have nuking potential. It makes you tanky Armour more dmg and attack speed and 50% evasion. you wont have as much raw hp as in hotd>drums>maelstrom. Game to game basis its a suicidal tactic. The pay of is great but the risk is too large to make it a good strategy. Situational at best

最后由 SIA 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日下午 12:09

#23

Sammy

2015 年 5 月 24 日下午 12:07

引用自 SiicKxShoTz：
引用自 Sammy：
Last game I went battlefury was a few days ago (10 hero challenge), I wanted to try it again..didn't go so bad but still it was a pain to be slowed by viper throught bkb, I had no attack speed whatsoever.. I got mad and went for AC xD
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1479402640

The BF build is so painstaking and honestly underwhelming and not fun, imo. Brown boots into BF is bad afaik. Getting PA online fast in mid game to be able to defend pushes and actually be able to annihilate ♥♥♥♥ is huge, and fun. Looks like you made the BF build work pretty well though.

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1497686547

Yeah I know it's not fun, but didn't go brown boots battlefury.. I GOT PHASEBOOTs first xD and wand, idk don't rmeember
I usually go maelstrom but you didn't upgrade it and you bought S&Y which is bad for PA xD she has a slow already

最后由 Sammy 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 24 日下午 12:07

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