Dota 2
yobcheb Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:04pm
Bring the old Phantom Lancer
I hate to see such a stupid changes made to good heroes and makes their use in game totaly different than before. Lets vote to bring the old PL.
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BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:05pm 
So what you're saying is you hate change.
yobcheb Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by Spark:
So what you're saying is you hate change.
slight changes are one thing , but changing most of the skills - this is almost new hero.... i hope this is experimental
BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by 'noovs:
Originally posted by Spark:
So what you're saying is you hate change.
slight changes are one thing , but changing most of the skills - this is almost new hero.... i hope this is experimental
So yeah you don't like change... Also why is this bad?
yobcheb Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Spark:
Originally posted by 'noovs:
slight changes are one thing , but changing most of the skills - this is almost new hero.... i hope this is experimental
So yeah you don't like change... Also why is this bad?
Did you try it yet ? Check it out , see the changes, compare with the old ones , than give your opinion - bad , good , same and etc.
ChemicalBacon Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:14pm 
Pre update: "LOL VOLVO PL SO BAD BUFF PLSS"
Post update: "OMFG VOLVO PL SO OP AND BAD PLS NERF AND CHANGE AXAXAXAXAX"
BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:15pm 
Originally posted by 'noovs:
Originally posted by Spark:
So yeah you don't like change... Also why is this bad?
Did you try it yet ? Check it out , see the changes, compare with the old ones , than give your opinion - bad , good , same and etc.
I have tried it and I like it. His new doppelganger ability can be used to dodge deadly projectiles and the phantom rush passive makes it easier to catch escaping heroes while you don't have mana for spirit lance. Also while he makes illusions faster they dissapear a lot quicker. Personally I think it's a buff but it by no means changes the whole hero.
BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Pre update: "LOL VOLVO PL SO BAD BUFF PLSS"
Post update: "OMFG VOLVO PL SO OP AND BAD PLS NERF AND CHANGE AXAXAXAXAX"
Which is funny because I never thought he was a bad hero. The meta just involved a lot of aoe damage.
ChemicalBacon Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Spark:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Pre update: "LOL VOLVO PL SO BAD BUFF PLSS"
Post update: "OMFG VOLVO PL SO OP AND BAD PLS NERF AND CHANGE AXAXAXAXAX"
Which is funny because I never thought he was a bad hero. The meta just involved a lot of aoe damage.
I never did as well.
But now hes pretty awesome. He is less rat and more teamfight
Probably my most played since the update.
BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:19pm 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by Spark:
Which is funny because I never thought he was a bad hero. The meta just involved a lot of aoe damage.
I never did as well.
But now hes pretty awesome. He is less rat and more teamfight
Probably my most played since the update.
Yeah my favorite part is people complaining that he gets two free illusions from the doppelganger ability when they die in like 1 hit.
ChemicalBacon Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Spark:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I never did as well.
But now hes pretty awesome. He is less rat and more teamfight
Probably my most played since the update.
Yeah my favorite part is people complaining that he gets two free illusions from the doppelganger ability when they die in like 1 hit.

One doesn't even do damage.
BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by Spark:
Yeah my favorite part is people complaining that he gets two free illusions from the doppelganger ability when they die in like 1 hit.

One doesn't even do damage.
The other one does like 10 or 20%
ChemicalBacon Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:21pm 
Originally posted by Spark:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:

One doesn't even do damage.
The other one does like 10 or 20%

I don't understand this community somtimes.
yobcheb Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by Spark:
Originally posted by 'noovs:
Did you try it yet ? Check it out , see the changes, compare with the old ones , than give your opinion - bad , good , same and etc.
I have tried it and I like it. His new doppelganger ability can be used to dodge deadly projectiles and the phantom rush passive makes it easier to catch escaping heroes while you don't have mana for spirit lance. Also while he makes illusions faster they dissapear a lot quicker. Personally I think it's a buff but it by no means changes the whole hero.
Everything you say i agree , but on my point of view he lost his magic resistance and to escape invisible. Now the Earthshaker, His Echo Slam also generates an echo for every illusion and kill you just with one ult. For me this is a big change, before he was a hard carry, escaper and a pusher, but now will see :)
BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by Spark:
The other one does like 10 or 20%

I don't understand this community somtimes.
Well as they say everyone is unique. Even if the majority of unique is just stupidity
BNDN Sep 27, 2014 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by 'noovs:
Originally posted by Spark:
I have tried it and I like it. His new doppelganger ability can be used to dodge deadly projectiles and the phantom rush passive makes it easier to catch escaping heroes while you don't have mana for spirit lance. Also while he makes illusions faster they dissapear a lot quicker. Personally I think it's a buff but it by no means changes the whole hero.
Everything you say i agree , but on my point of view he lost his magic resistance and to escape invisible. Now the Earthshaker, His Echo Slam also generates an echo for every illusion and kill you just with one ult. For me this is a big change, before he was a hard carry, escaper and a pusher, but now will see :)
He's still a hard carry and a pusher. Also hasn't echo slam triggered on illusions since before 6.82?
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