Dota 2
Kyzael Sep 20, 2014 @ 4:40am
Lina - Magical or Physical?
When we see Lina Inverse, down to her basics. She's a hard nuker. Her skills hurt a lot normally and she has a great attack speed.

My question is on how Lina should be built? And why to accomidate certain situations?
The reason why I ask is because is you go all magical. They buy BKB and they are gold against you. Sure there is Ags but in late game, you are relying usually on Veil or Ethereal blade to amp your stuff up to late game. Refreshers and Level 5 excluded. (Even if they were included, it's me just proving the point about Magical)

And yet her physical prowess is normally left untouched. I don't see Lina a lot in pubs now days so I dont know the whole new meta for her now.

She has insane amounts of attack speed but little damage to back it up. I've seen (Thanks to the lovely Laguna Queen, shout out to her) Lina buying Lifesteal, MKB, Daedalus, and the occasional Desolator.

So what do you think? Should Lina normally stick to her range of attacks of Magical based? Or just move to dealing with large portions of Physical/Magical.


As a case, to simply put my input into this. I played Bots as Lina about an hour ago to see how well it worked. Despite the horrible thrashing my team was given because no one runs from Lich's ultimate + Ags. I had gotten Desolator and towers just dropped. And that's probably the only reason why I kept Desolator for so long because my team just wished to push down mid or bot.
Again, while I know some may think it's stupid i'm talking about Bots, this is merely to prove a point.

As a Magical based Lina, I probably would have never been able to take towers and racks as quickly as I did unless I had gone as Physical based Lina. As each time I got near the tower or anyone showed themselves, someone was TP'ing it. And by someone, it was usually everyone.


Another case is Armor for Lina. Her armor is just piss poor in my opinion as is her HP. So would you change your armor choice (Shiva's = Magical, Assault Curiass = Physical) to accomdate the kind of Lina you are playing? Or would you just stay with the normal Shiva?

Usually to solve the "Physical" based Lina's mana problems is buying a bloodstone. Pure and simple. Mana regen or Int items aren't needed. Unless you've just been dying to Silencer.
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ChemicalBacon Sep 20, 2014 @ 4:42am 
I build her glass cannon with etheral blade
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=307077458

Full build is here but I find support lina wasted because her skills have a very low cooldown time and she can gank easily with her fast firing skills and damage
Not a Seagull Sep 20, 2014 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by Kyzael:
Usually to solve the "Physical" based Lina's mana problems is buying a bloodstone. Pure and simple. Mana regen or Int items aren't needed. Unless you've just been dying to Silencer.
I really hate bloodstone on lina, i love the euls into hex better
gives good disables, extra movement speed, and also mana regen
111 Sep 20, 2014 @ 4:47am 
Battle Lina - Aghanim, Eul/Hex, Refresher, Arcanes/Travels, Shiva, Ethereal/BKB
Support Lina - Drums, Arcanes, Bloodstone, Eul, Force Staff, BKB/Ghost
Battle Lina v.2 - Drums, Phases/Travels, Daedalus, Desolator, Assault Cuirass, BKB

Choose anything from the list, and play.
Kyzael Sep 20, 2014 @ 4:55am 
If I was just name a build off. Depending if the enemy has 3 or more Str heros is whether if I get a Desolator or not.

In cases like with Tide, I think BKB is nesscary as I would prefer being uninterrupted. I tolerate with other heros. Lina, not so much.

But in a general aspect. Whether if i'm mid or not. Bottle, Arcane, Blink, Bloodstone. 3 slots left to improvise. If i'm given the space I want, E. Blade, Ags. and either Dagon or Refreshers.
If I have to go physical. It would depend how hard-core as a carry i'm having to be. Semi, Deso, Daedalus, and MKB.
Full on hard carry, like you need to be have a strong presence like you are a late game, fed PA or Void.

That build would consist of Boots of Travel, Bloodstone, Blink, Daedalus, BKB, then either two out of the three: MKB, Skadi, Satanic.

Lina is good in her own right but her armor, as I said, it just bad. Skadi and Bloodstone usually will give her 11 armor and 2k HP.
Kyzael Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I build her glass cannon with etheral blade
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=307077458

Full build is here but I find support lina wasted because her skills have a very low cooldown time and she can gank easily with her fast firing skills and damage
You know, despite the couple arguements we've had together. I admit it would be interesting to play a game with you one day.
ChemicalBacon Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by Kyzael:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I build her glass cannon with etheral blade
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=307077458

Full build is here but I find support lina wasted because her skills have a very low cooldown time and she can gank easily with her fast firing skills and damage
You know, despite the couple arguements we've had together. I admit it would be interesting to play a game with you one day.
Mid and feed.
Kyzael Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by Kyzael:
You know, despite the couple arguements we've had together. I admit it would be interesting to play a game with you one day.
Mid and feed.
Sounds exactly like my friend. Always yelling when he's playing Omni-Knight. Or Earthshaker.
Pattiex Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I build her glass cannon with etheral blade
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=307077458

Full build is here but I find support lina wasted because her skills have a very low cooldown time and she can gank easily with her fast firing skills and damage

Not to have an argument with you bro but for me, as a Full Support player, I found her excellent being a Support, I always see Lina as Lion w/o Hex. If you know what i mean, i've used her in my Ranked Matches and some local Pubstomp games here at our town, and i definitely love her, I think having Lina played as Support still depends on the player, line-up and the enemy line-up ofc. P.S. I played her twice as a Tri Lane Carry, I know the feeling of being a Carry Lina too ;)
ChemicalBacon Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by 花都利奈ー ツ:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
I build her glass cannon with etheral blade
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=307077458

Full build is here but I find support lina wasted because her skills have a very low cooldown time and she can gank easily with her fast firing skills and damage

Not to have an argument with you bro but for me, as a Full Support player, I found her excellent being a Support, I always see Lina as Lion w/o Hex. If you know what i mean, i've used her in my Ranked Matches and some local Pubstomp games here at our town, and i definitely love her, I think having Lina played as Support still depends on the player, line-up and the enemy line-up ofc. P.S. I played her twice as a Tri Lane Carry, I know the feeling of being a Carry Lina too ;)
Well yeah, I agree
I just think there are better supports.

IMHO supports should benefit the team in some way (passive mana regen, lots of disable, etc.)
Lina is just pure damage
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Date Posted: Sep 20, 2014 @ 4:40am
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