Dota 2
Glorious Ert Dec 26, 2024 @ 6:23am
I Quit DOTA 2 because of matchmaking
I had fun in DOTA 2, but also, because of bad matchmaking, i choose to quit and save myself the trouble that comes with Valve not caring to provide fairness (they force you to lose more than you win, and that makes the matchmaker bad). The ideal balance would be a 50.1% winrate, My winrate hovers around 47-48%. It may not sound bad, but average. It is very bad, though. The difference between wins and losses is a few hundred games, which would make my actual rank way better. A matchmaker must provide 50.1% winrate for the average player and only great players should be able to beat that number. Since the game devs donțt care to provide that, and are interested only in making money, i think i can forget about this game. Too bad, coz it was good a few years back. Competing requires fair conditions and thata makes the game bad at this point. Whenever you win 5 games, turns out you will lose 6 games in the following games. That is by design so it feels bad for my psych. Thing is, at the mmr i m ranked at the moment, winning those 5 games should not place me in a rank where i am way above my league and can t keep winning at that rank. It s not as if i was suddenly ranked 3 k mmr above my skills and i would not be able to do anything because i would be much worse that the competition. I was ancient and legend a few years back and now i m crusader and whenever i hit archon, the game matches me so i lose lots of games in a row and can t stay there. This feels bad by design. Lots of people are arguing that they cannot get out of this mmr range. I donțt want to cry about my misfortune, i m just saying that you fail to provide good matches and that makes me unhappy in the long run. The purpose of playing a game is relieving the tension and being happier overall in time. If your game does the opposite, and that is what happens to me, i choose to end my time spent here. I believe that in time, if more people do the same, your finances will be affected and at least some of my discomfort will be returned. I don t think i m coming back.
Last edited by Glorious Ert; Dec 26, 2024 @ 6:27am
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4notherDe4th Dec 26, 2024 @ 10:31am 
I left for a month and i played 1 game yesterday.... same bad matchmaking.. don't respect roles... so I uninstalled it again... Don't play dota.. The game is great but the matchmaking is really bad... behavior system is terrible... No ban or punishment for toxic people... Just leave dota until they fix these.. Don't play dota this way... The only way to stop this is showing them with numbers..... Each day more people is leaving dota sadly... but bad devs happends..
Last edited by 4notherDe4th; Dec 26, 2024 @ 10:32am
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by EL_SATAN:

The difference is that I'm not afraid to tell the truth and you are paid actor-clown in the same time.
Whats that had anything to do with leaving a game and take a stance againts Valve ? I’m wondering who is the paid actor, you or me ?

Here i’m encouraging people to leave the game (take a stance againts Valve) and you encouraging people to not be afraid to tell the truth but keep playing the game. Whose actually the paid actor ?

Maybe you should tell the same to the people playing deadlock because it's BAD. I know i was done with that piece of ♥♥♥♥ so long as they don't fix things or make the game worse every update.

Though i'm thinking i might quit dota for good too because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this isn't even fun anymore both with our without a 5 stack.
Danaie Dec 26, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ you *****:
Originally posted by Glorious Ert:
does LOL have the same mmr imbalance?
i don't know, have not tried LOL yet. But i have already quitted dota for 3 months, feel much better. I love this game but now only watch pro - players play. Man, i really miss the Dota2 from 2016 - 2020.
2020? LMAO Dota been bad since 2018
StaticRD Dec 26, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by Kagami:
You already make 1 thread that you gonna quit. Ok so Valve and dota2 lose 1 player. Sure its possible but remember that dota2 is free to play so its also free to leave.

Valve would never forbid any players to leave dota2 forever. I can guarantee you this.

So good luck on your next game outside dota2 but even without you, dota2 will still be here and played by half a millions players everyday. Respecfully.
dota is free to play but not free to climb you valve agent incel. Thats why everyone who is crusader or above has dota plus and or has climbed to that rank or above using dota plus
Danaie Dec 26, 2024 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by StaticRD:
Originally posted by Kagami:
You already make 1 thread that you gonna quit. Ok so Valve and dota2 lose 1 player. Sure its possible but remember that dota2 is free to play so its also free to leave.

Valve would never forbid any players to leave dota2 forever. I can guarantee you this.

So good luck on your next game outside dota2 but even without you, dota2 will still be here and played by half a millions players everyday. Respecfully.
dota is free to play but not free to climb you valve agent incel. Thats why everyone who is crusader or above has dota plus and or has climbed to that rank or above using dota plus
Kid I’ve had dota plus since day 1 and stopped this year… been getting better people since then. If you don’t know what are you talking about you should just keep crying and not spreading lies about a game you clearly hate.
StaticRD Dec 26, 2024 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by Danaie:
Originally posted by StaticRD:
dota is free to play but not free to climb you valve agent incel. Thats why everyone who is crusader or above has dota plus and or has climbed to that rank or above using dota plus
Kid I’ve had dota plus since day 1 and stopped this year… been getting better people since then. If you don’t know what are you talking about you should just keep crying and not spreading lies about a game you clearly hate.
save your lies to someone whos actually dumb enough to believe them. Better matchmaking without dota plus ? Ya thats less believable than santa coming down your chimney on Christmas night. Enjoy your block valve agent
MVP_lCE™ Dec 26, 2024 @ 6:00pm 
Thanks for sharing your experiences and stories.

Have a nice journey.

Regards,
MVP_lCE
Absche Dec 26, 2024 @ 10:49pm 
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by StaticRD:
dota is free to play but not free to climb you valve agent incel. Thats why everyone who is crusader or above has dota plus and or has climbed to that rank or above using dota plus
Where are the OG dota 2 players nowadays. Its weird because from 2011-2013 dota 2 doesn't even have ranked mode. So nobody climb on that time. Where is the OG players nowadays, why its always the new soft gen z players who compaint ?
Yes, it is at least partly a generation issue.
Glorious Ert Dec 26, 2024 @ 10:49pm 
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by Glorious Ert:
I indeed said that i would, then i played another game, it was same ♥♥♥♥ and i decided to stop then. Since you have a somewhat official opinion, i can t help but ask if you are an admin on this forum?
I respect your decision to leave the game tbh. Its brave.

As for your other question, I can answer this on 1 january 2025 (thats the date i officially retire from this game and this forum).
I respect your courage too. Have a nice life!
Glorious Ert Dec 26, 2024 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by Danaie:
Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ you *****:
i don't know, have not tried LOL yet. But i have already quitted dota for 3 months, feel much better. I love this game but now only watch pro - players play. Man, i really miss the Dota2 from 2016 - 2020.
2020? LMAO Dota been bad since 2018
same here
Glorious Ert Dec 26, 2024 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by Absche:
Yes, it is at least partly a generation issue.
The problematic players is the solo ranked player. Always.
It means that it is here where devs failed, doesn 't it?
:D Dec 27, 2024 @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by Glorious Ert:
It means that it is here where devs failed, doesn 't it?
Yes maybe its better to delete the solo ranked queue. So people have to party first before playing. And solo can play all unranked.
been saying this for years.
Delete solo rank problem solved.
Last edited by :D; Dec 27, 2024 @ 12:08am
MVP_lCE™ Dec 27, 2024 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by Absche:
Yes, it is at least partly a generation issue.
The problematic players is the solo ranked player. Always.

I can sense many cases or complaints were made by players who faced game issues when they stepped into this game without the necessary experience (no offence). I can confess this because I was once an active whiner (complainer) about the Ranked MM too. A lot of experience was achieved after many struggles (gameplays & forum talks).

As we know, the common game match in "Dota II" requires at least 5 players in a team and 10 players in total to ensure a good start to the game. Why does the game never erase the "solo" gameplay because it already generated a lot of unwanted issues such as "abuse of MMR", "MMR boosting", "smurfing", etc? - if that player never forms a party with at least one partner, the green button of Play Dota shall be locked.

The reason for the strict locking is to "enforce" the player to find at least a partner or form his party first if he wants to battle in the arena. When he plans for a complaint, that partner or his party members must join in his discussion. Otherwise, that discussion or talk is a no-point complaint, which can immediately be locked or deleted.

I believe many "Smurfs" or boosting players can lose their dirty benefits too. Doesn't it sound better against those?

Regards,
MVP_lCE
LeGeNdArY NooB Dec 27, 2024 @ 12:45am 
There is no problem with solo matchmaking. if you cant climb you should practice more in unranked. or have more fun in arcade. and it will improve your skills and will warm you up for rank up. stop spamming ranked. ranked is only for when you are happy and have lots of confident. dota is not only ranked. enjoy other sections of the dota.
If you are spamming ranked for fun, then its what you will get. if you think you deserve ancient or divine, then you should be able to go for +30-+40 kills in crusader or archon. if you cant, then its your rank. just enjoy it. why thinking a lot about your rank?! just have your fun. below 10k mmr you should stop thinking so much about mmr and have your fun. we are not pro dota players who compete in Leagues or TI. so whats the matter?! herald or divine, its same for us. we are playing for some fun. not for money.
LeGeNdArY NooB Dec 27, 2024 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by Kagami:
Originally posted by Glorious Ert:
It means that it is here where devs failed, doesn 't it?
Yes maybe its better to delete the solo ranked queue. So people have to party first before playing. And solo can play all unranked.
didnt we argued about deleting solo ranked queue before?! you should keep your :DSTpoop: thought for yourself. if you cant understand solo ranked queue or cant help people with with it, then you should stop talking. just tell them that you dont know how to rank up solo or play solo. there is no reason to cry for valve about deleting it.
Dont know why it remind me of some kids. "Maaaa, i dont like it, delete it, destroy it, i dont wanna see it again" xD
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