Dota meant to be fun and enjoyable , not anymore

[Zhaoqing Village]

the sprite of dota means...

enjoy the game....

enjoy playing dota with random people or parties...
not be scared to try new things....
enjoy the sprite of dota just like warcraft 3....

people have lost the enjoyment of dota....

instead all i see is.....

trolling
arguing
provoking
sabotaging

.... this is not dota... we here to enjoy dota....

with the mute system it even harder to communicate with others..
people are reporting anyone who disagree with them..

IT not dota the problem... it the new generation of players....

they dont understand the enjoyment and the sprite of gaming...

dota meant to enjoy 5v5 with other people....

now days people go on dota to troll and argue with each other... trying very hard to piss other off.. what ever necessary ...

its sad... we losing the enjoyment of gaming... this is not the dota i used to be...

valve dont care anymore./. they busy making money...

even dota international prize pool has crash...

dota is still the best 5v5 gaming....

it a sad day for dota...............

[:D]

"enjoy playing dota with random people or parties..."

and you only tried solo with random, now do the other option.
play in parties and see if the arguing sabotaging and trolling is the same

[:D]

"not anymore"
when did solo ranked not have trolling sabotagers and people arguing ?
give me a time

[Absche]

Yes, the player base has lost a lot of chill over the time.

[Appetite For Destruction]

There's no enjoyment anymore, because the matches are not competitive anymore.

Nowadays the rule is 50% winrate(forced), so it has not much to do with skills.

If you lost a few matches in sequence, the enemy team will be bots.
If you won a few matches in sequence, you'll be drowned by your team.

Therefore, there is no fun, no surprise, no comebacks.
It's all carefully determined by this ULTRAGARBAGESICKATROCIOUS
matchmaking system.

Its called frustration.

[Zhaoqing Village]

i being playing solo since Warcraft 3.... the toxic level is insane..

before playing solo is fun because you see random playing with different built and skills..

but they don't farm all game or try to sabotage the game ..

now say it like 50 percent getting a troll or a toxic person playing solo... .

we all know playing in party you dont see much toxic player but sometime other are busy or you want to play with random people...

i guess the new player properly think this is normal..

the enoyment of dota is important

[Appetite For Destruction]

I don't mind randomly getting bad teammates. It happens, is normal.

Attention to the word: RANDOMLY.

But when I'm getting a team full of trolls, PRECISELY after my fifth win in a row, everytime, then that's no randomness. It's just the game itself ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ my playtime.

And that is just no acceptable.
Dota is the only game I know that sabotages its own players.
And thats also why its dying, cause people had enough of it.

[Taweret]

this is romanticizing old days when you could kick people out of private lobbies or even out of the game... dota 1 was never about completely random people because you as the host had full control over it. if someone was a griefer, they would be put on the blocklist so they would not participate in the games. but to organize a game, that was too time consuming. now we have an automated system that is not perfect, and the only option is to have dota plus and put ppl on the avoid list. i personally never do that because i rarely encounter trolls and griefers (playing badly is not griefing) and i don't care about toxic chat or arguing because i play on "all muted", I enjoy doto. so if you can't enjoy the game, the issue is on your attitude and exceptions, change the mindset and everything will be fine and dandy. remember, it's all in your head, and if you are affected by people testing your mental endurance, that's on your side, your vulnerability.

[Appetite For Destruction]

That's actually another thing that is against Dota on this matter.

Why should I ever have a limit of people I can ban? Moreover, why is it so small?
25 people? Really? No even 50? And I have to pay 15k crystals to release 1 spot? ONE?? Why?

If I know someone is toxic, or bad player, and I truly don't want to be at the same team ever, why should I be forced to do so?

I mean, Valve's intentions are so clear, that you'd have to be blind not to see.
It's just out there, and it sucks.

I don't understand what kind of mental disease made they make it this way. All I know is that Dota had the potential to be huge, and they just killed it with stupidity.

Is like watching someone pissing on the Sistine Chapel's walls.

WHAT A WASTE.

[:D]

Originally posted by Appetite For Destruction:

That's actually another thing that is against Dota on this matter.

Why should I ever have a limit of people I can ban? Moreover, why is it so small?
25 people? Really? No even 50? And I have to pay 15k crystals to release 1 spot? ONE?? Why?

If I know someone is toxic, or bad player, and I truly don't want to be at the same team ever, why should I be forced to do so?

I mean, Valve's intentions are so clear, that you'd have to be blind not to see.
It's just out there, and it sucks.

I don't understand what kind of mental disease made they make it this way. All I know is that Dota had the potential to be huge, and they just killed it with stupidity.

Is like watching someone pissing on the Sistine Chapel's walls.

WHAT A WASTE.

instead of picking 25.000 people you dont want on your team. why dont you find 4-10 people you actually want on your team

[Genzk]

You were right buddy, I also having same issue in recently matches, almost mentally break down, but they were right as well. If we cannot be patient, then I guess we need to change ourselves, or just quit the game for some time to pass on.

[Appetite For Destruction]

Originally posted by :D:

instead of picking 25.000 people you dont want on your team. why dont you find 4-10 people you actually want on your team

Because I don't have a fixed time to play, therefore, I can't be waiting on other people everytime I want to play a match. Because there are lots of people that preffer to play alone. Because Dota is a very deep game with many layers that you must understand, and it's very rare to find people with actually the same level of knowledge about the game. Because there are at least a dozen reasons that makes it complicated to find and keep a team. The fact that you even made this question is such a cynical stupidity that I just dislike you very much.

Now, why are u being Valve's b-e-a-tch in every discussion, are they paying you to do it?

[:D]

Originally posted by Appetite For Destruction:

Originally posted by :D:

instead of picking 25.000 people you dont want on your team. why dont you find 4-10 people you actually want on your team

Because I don't have a fixed time to play, therefore, I can't be waiting on other people everytime I want to play a match. Because there are lots of people that preffer to play alone. Because Dota is a very deep game with many layers that you must understand, and it's very rare to find people with actually the same level of knowledge about the game. Because there are at least a dozen reasons that makes it complicated to find and keep a team. The fact that you even made this question is such a cynical stupidity that I just dislike you very much.

Now, why are u being Valve's b-e-a-tch in every discussion, are they paying you to do it?

You dont have time for fixed schedule... yet playing solo is a waste of time
and wasting time you have time for.

[testitan]

the people I play with /get paired with are criminals, or behave criminal, but that ddoesnt touch dota actually.

every european learn and sort that out at a later day.
one thing is to try and find a new "ruse" that is just only that and a neat tool of disguise.

but doing that in a criminal scope dishonors and spoils the effect of a good "sport" ruse.

Also big person in history use deception when pure strength is not enough. but be careful its not that easy to do that without regets and mistakes in a calculation that is positive for you.

we must light more leafes before we can see the shelter.

e.g. own team players punish me for helping them and punish me ontop for consequences of that and ontop valve comes with criminal tools (in my country at least things count as criminal e.g. dishnors against children e.g. disallow them to talk or respond when getting hurt counts as children torture crime) to punish ontop for a slight thing that was ....

well compared to the latter a masterpiece of showcase. Its still just that: A master piece. it WILL prevail. better dont look what those people reacting on receive in return.
its THEIR decision to react on in any way at all even.

better look at the master piece for better.

[Zhaoqing Village]

dota is about playing with other as well..

its good to play in party.. but not all the time...

sometime you want to play with random people...

each individual is different ..

we all want to play in party but not everyone have the luxury .

its just sad to see the enjoyment and sprite of dota is gone ..

i post the thread all i see.. people saying... why not just play in party....

it like there a sinkhole... why not just around it...

there shouldnt be a sinkhole in the first place///