Dota 2
Ability Draft In Turbo
Why they won`t make it in turbo. It makes much more sense, this way it will become fun and more options to play with. Otherwise its just farming and farming again
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AD is, unfortunately, kind of a dead mode. Plus it takes longer to set up and start the match, and people playing Turbo don't have the patience to wait. All that and it would be EXTREMELY unbalanced a lot of the time means that Valve isn't going to devote a lot of resources to it.
Last edited by Deepbluediver; Mar 10 @ 4:49pm
sunlight Mar 10 @ 5:31am 
What we need is ranked turbo. The mmr delta can be +/- 10 each match instead of +/- 25. I would play the heck out of that.
Dinsdale Mar 10 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by sunlight:
What we need is ranked turbo. The mmr delta can be +/- 10 each match instead of +/- 25. I would play the heck out of that.
:steamfacepalm:

Even though some of the players have gone insane, Valve sure haven't.
sunlight Mar 10 @ 9:21am 
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
Originally posted by sunlight:
What we need is ranked turbo. The mmr delta can be +/- 10 each match instead of +/- 25. I would play the heck out of that.
:steamfacepalm:

Even though some of the players have gone insane, Valve sure haven't.
Why is it an insane idea? You wouldn't be getting the same amount of mmr when winning a turbo match. You have to play more than 2 games to get +25 according to my suggestion. So essentially more than an hour to get +25 in turbo ranked which is a lower rate than the normal length ranked game. So climbing using turbo ranked would be harder but would be much pleasant experience since the players don't have to waste large portions of their life's on a losing match and just sit there like a duck waiting for the match to end as soon as possible. Or the simpler solution would be to introduce a concede button but valve wont do anything sensible so why even bother asking.
Dinsdale Mar 10 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by sunlight:
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
:steamfacepalm:

Even though some of the players have gone insane, Valve sure haven't.
Why is it an insane idea? You wouldn't be getting the same amount of mmr when winning a turbo match. You have to play more than 2 games to get +25 according to my suggestion. So essentially more than an hour to get +25 in turbo ranked which is a lower rate than the normal length ranked game. So climbing using turbo ranked would be harder but would be much pleasant experience since the players don't have to waste large portions of their life's on a losing match and just sit there like a duck waiting for the match to end as soon as possible. Or the simpler solution would be to introduce a concede button but valve wont do anything sensible so why even bother asking.
Absolutely an insane idea and anyone that is of sound mind wouldn't spend time contiplating doing of this.

Old name for turbo was easy mode, there is no easy mode in getting mmr. You would dilute mmr just by adding this. Some silly people have tried suggesting this before only to be laughed at in the entire thread.

Turbo is inherantly unbalanced by nature and ain't no way valve is going to balance two game modes for this dumb idea. They wont lift a finger for Turbo players and they shouldn't, it's a casual game mode.

Forfeit option is another dumb idea for players who wants to give up. Other mobas have had this and the companies are bankrupt. Spamming forfeit is just another form of griefing. Crazy idea, play until the throne is dead. Deafitist mentallity is for the soft and weak.

You're arguing that not giving up is a waste of your life on earth and yet you play games which already objectivaly a waste. Absolutely silly take.

Use more time thinking about how to not make a fool of yourself before you post crazy things on the internet.
Last edited by Dinsdale; Mar 10 @ 10:25am
Originally posted by sunlight:
What we need is to get rid of turbo.

Why, what a fantastic idea! Get rid of those people without the patience to play Dota! Better to have a smaller number of quality players than a larger number of confused or lame players who repeatedly ask for ranked queues for the silly modes, or who want to ruin the game by adding a surrender button! :trolol:
sunlight Mar 10 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
Originally posted by sunlight:
Why is it an insane idea? You wouldn't be getting the same amount of mmr when winning a turbo match. You have to play more than 2 games to get +25 according to my suggestion. So essentially more than an hour to get +25 in turbo ranked which is a lower rate than the normal length ranked game. So climbing using turbo ranked would be harder but would be much pleasant experience since the players don't have to waste large portions of their life's on a losing match and just sit there like a duck waiting for the match to end as soon as possible. Or the simpler solution would be to introduce a concede button but valve wont do anything sensible so why even bother asking.
Absolutely an insane idea and anyone that is of sound mind wouldn't spend time contiplating doing of this.

Old name for turbo was easy mode, there is no easy mode in getting mmr. You would dilute mmr just by adding this. Some silly people have tried suggesting this before only to be laughed at in the entire thread.

Turbo is inherantly unbalanced by nature and ain't no way valve is going to balance two game modes for this dumb idea. They wont lift a finger for Turbo players and they shouldn't, it's a casual game mode.

Forfeit option is another dumb idea for players who wants to give up. Other mobas have had this and the companies are bankrupt. Spamming forfeit is just another form of griefing. Crazy idea, play until the throne is dead. Deafitist mentallity is for the soft and weak.

You're arguing that not giving up is a waste of your life on earth and yet you play games which already objectivaly a waste. Absolutely silly take.

Use more time thinking about how to not make a fool of yourself before you post crazy things on the internet.
I don't understand your logic. How is it easy mode if both side play on the same setting? Its not as if only my team is playing with higher GPM. It still requires skill just like the regular games but a lot faster and more fun. The reason why Dota and other MOBAS are dying is because their reluctance to adjust according to new paradigm. Just stay in the early 2000s era and watch your game die slowly. Nobody even cares about any pro matches anymore. Stadiums are always almost empty for Dota. Pathetic numbers even for streamers. People like you hold the game back.
"Having fun what is that? We are supposed to be strong and mighty and endure the most toxic people for hours to get +/-25 mmr in the end"
Complete waste of time. No wonder valve is making deadlock.
There is no shame in forfeiting a match if you know for a fact that you have a bad draft. There is no coming back from a bad draft. Period.
I truly don't understand people like you who just want to stick to old ways and rot.
Dinsdale Mar 10 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by sunlight:
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
Absolutely an insane idea and anyone that is of sound mind wouldn't spend time contiplating doing of this.

Old name for turbo was easy mode, there is no easy mode in getting mmr. You would dilute mmr just by adding this. Some silly people have tried suggesting this before only to be laughed at in the entire thread.

Turbo is inherantly unbalanced by nature and ain't no way valve is going to balance two game modes for this dumb idea. They wont lift a finger for Turbo players and they shouldn't, it's a casual game mode.

Forfeit option is another dumb idea for players who wants to give up. Other mobas have had this and the companies are bankrupt. Spamming forfeit is just another form of griefing. Crazy idea, play until the throne is dead. Deafitist mentallity is for the soft and weak.

You're arguing that not giving up is a waste of your life on earth and yet you play games which already objectivaly a waste. Absolutely silly take.

Use more time thinking about how to not make a fool of yourself before you post crazy things on the internet.
I don't understand your logic. How is it easy mode if both side play on the same setting? Its not as if only my team is playing with higher GPM. It still requires skill just like the regular games but a lot faster and more fun. The reason why Dota and other MOBAS are dying is because their reluctance to adjust according to new paradigm. Just stay in the early 2000s era and watch your game die slowly. Nobody even cares about any pro matches anymore. Stadiums are always almost empty for Dota. Pathetic numbers even for streamers. People like you hold the game back.
"Having fun what is that? We are supposed to be strong and mighty and endure the most toxic people for hours to get +/-25 mmr in the end"
Complete waste of time. No wonder valve is making deadlock.
There is no shame in forfeiting a match if you know for a fact that you have a bad draft. There is no coming back from a bad draft. Period.
I truly don't understand people like you who just want to stick to old ways and rot.
More silly takes, lets gooo!

If you dont understand someones logic, atleast make your own make sense by not making up things.

The reason mobas are not that popular anymore is because they are ooooold and it's ignorant to believe its going to be reinvented by a forfait option or giving turbo noobs the ability to get mmr easy. Brings no value at all to the game.

Attendance for esports in general is in a downwards spiral, not just for dota. Dota has never had a solid streaming community, pros dont want to stream and content creators around mobas in general has disappeared to other games.

Oh and btw, you can absolutely win with bad drafts. Period. But what do turbo players know, they would rather give up than try. Pathetic.
Last edited by Dinsdale; Mar 10 @ 11:46am
sunlight Mar 10 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
Originally posted by sunlight:
I don't understand your logic. How is it easy mode if both side play on the same setting? Its not as if only my team is playing with higher GPM. It still requires skill just like the regular games but a lot faster and more fun. The reason why Dota and other MOBAS are dying is because their reluctance to adjust according to new paradigm. Just stay in the early 2000s era and watch your game die slowly. Nobody even cares about any pro matches anymore. Stadiums are always almost empty for Dota. Pathetic numbers even for streamers. People like you hold the game back.
"Having fun what is that? We are supposed to be strong and mighty and endure the most toxic people for hours to get +/-25 mmr in the end"
Complete waste of time. No wonder valve is making deadlock.
There is no shame in forfeiting a match if you know for a fact that you have a bad draft. There is no coming back from a bad draft. Period.
I truly don't understand people like you who just want to stick to old ways and rot.
More silly takes, lets gooo!

If you dont understand someones logic, atleast make your own make sense by not making up things.

The reason mobas are not that popular anymore is because they are ooooold and it's ignorant to believe its going to be reinvented by a forfait option or giving turbo noobs the ability to get mmr easy. Brings no value at all to the game.

Attendance for esports in general is in a downwards spiral, not just for dota. Dota has never had a solid streaming community, pros dont want to stream and content creators around mobas in general has disappeared to other games.

Oh and btw, you can absolutely win with bad drafts. Period. But what do turbo players know, they would rather give up than try.
I think you are below 6k mmr. People above 6k will punish you for taking stupid heroes. I don't have to talk to you anymore, you revealed your skill range.
Dinsdale Mar 10 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by sunlight:
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
More silly takes, lets gooo!

If you dont understand someones logic, atleast make your own make sense by not making up things.

The reason mobas are not that popular anymore is because they are ooooold and it's ignorant to believe its going to be reinvented by a forfait option or giving turbo noobs the ability to get mmr easy. Brings no value at all to the game.

Attendance for esports in general is in a downwards spiral, not just for dota. Dota has never had a solid streaming community, pros dont want to stream and content creators around mobas in general has disappeared to other games.

Oh and btw, you can absolutely win with bad drafts. Period. But what do turbo players know, they would rather give up than try.
I think you are below 6k mmr. People above 6k will punish you for taking stupid heroes. I don't have to talk to you anymore, you revealed your skill range.
So you argument falls now on making uneducated guesses on my skill range? You're Guardian and can't get over 1500 mmr. Thats some playground level comments you're making, but it makes sense now why you want turbo to give mmr.

The only thing immortals care about how well you play and most important of all not giving up like you want to do. Dota isn't LoL where you get a one week ban for everything.
Last edited by Dinsdale; Mar 10 @ 12:30pm
sunlight Mar 10 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
Originally posted by sunlight:
I think you are below 6k mmr. People above 6k will punish you for taking stupid heroes. I don't have to talk to you anymore, you revealed your skill range.
So you argument falls now on making uneducated guesses on my skill range? You're Guardian and can't get over 1500 mmr. Thats some playground level comments you're making, but it makes sense now why you want turbo to give mmr.

The only thing immortals care about how well you play and most important of all not giving up like you want to do. Dota isn't LoL where you get a one week ban for everything.
Im not guardian wtf. I just said Im above 6k mmr. I lost interest in this game because of time limit. I have a job and I cannot balance both. But I like to play ranked. So I suggested turbo ranked. Thats it. Most people have a job. Unlike people like you.
Dinsdale Mar 10 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by sunlight:
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
So you argument falls now on making uneducated guesses on my skill range? You're Guardian and can't get over 1500 mmr. Thats some playground level comments you're making, but it makes sense now why you want turbo to give mmr.

The only thing immortals care about how well you play and most important of all not giving up like you want to do. Dota isn't LoL where you get a one week ban for everything.
Im not guardian wtf. I just said Im above 6k mmr. I lost interest in this game because of time limit. I have a job and I cannot balance both. But I like to play ranked. So I suggested turbo ranked. Thats it. Most people have a job. Unlike people like you.

Making up things about me not having a job aswell now? Going to tell me your dad is bigger than mine aswell? Suggesting mmr for turbo was the only bad take you made in this thread and not your only suggestion.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/123133662
This is not a 6k player level of playing.
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