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Weakside Wictor Mar 7 @ 2:25am
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this matchmaking is rigged
You have 5 games where everyone is competent, and you breeze through them.
Then you get 5 games where AM buys heart and axe is rushing phylactery.
You can't tell me this is normal fair elo system, and the icing on the cake is monetizing it with dota plus.
It is getting GLARINGLY obvious.
Last edited by Weakside Wictor; Mar 7 @ 2:26am
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Muro Mar 8 @ 12:49am 
Is the MMR System Rigged?
The MMR system is not rigged, but it can sometimes feel unfair due to various factors:

Smurf Accounts: Players creating new accounts to play at lower skill levels can disrupt matchmaking.

Party vs. Solo Queue: Playing in a party can affect your MMR differently than playing solo, as the system tries to balance the skill levels of all players in the match.

Role Preferences: If you're consistently playing a role you're less skilled at, your MMR might not accurately reflect your overall skill level.

⭐⭐Sometimes when you win a few matches in special bracelet, you will get used to how others play, then by gaining more mmr you will also face harder matches, while you still are used to those lower skill players and how they play, you dont understand your own mistake among them and blame the team or the mmr system❗

Overall, the MMR system aims to create fair matches, but external factors and individual experiences can sometimes make it feel otherwise.
Originally posted by Alpha Omega Pepega:
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Nonono.... it's not a "rank where axe buys phylactery", most players itemise correctly, and know the basics of the game in crusader. It's axe here that is out of his waters for some very "interesting" reason.
Now, if I were to push through and by some miracle win a game that is basically 4v5 in all but name, the EOMM would ♥♥♥♥ off for a while and give me normal matches again, that is how it works.
Unfortunately, very few player besides actual smurfs can win 4v5 games, so we are doomed to have these waste of time games after winstreaks, because billy bob with his 46% winrate account HAS to win sometimes too otherwise he would quit !
If you think, that you need to force people to win and to lose, then you dont understand how ranked system actually works.
Now, dont fool yourself. If i look at any of your matches, i will find a lot of mistakes, most of them will be fundamental as well, trust me, i have exp with people like you. Just because buying phyl on axe is such an obvious example, it does not make all mistakes that you make worth any less. There is a reason why he is in the same skill bracket, as you are.
You would need to dig pretty damn deep in my games to find anything so obviously stupid as axe rushing phylactery and skipping blink. Stop trying to gaslight, you say in one sentence that "certain rank should know certain things" is false, then come up with a rank argument how he is the same rank as me. Time to decide if rank matters or not here.
For the reason he is my rank, he could've bought an account and is falling straight down, it could be an old account that was crusader like 5 years ago and he is back, it could be his friend/brother/girlfriend whoever playing on his account, it could be anything.
Originally posted by Alpha Omega Pepega:
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Kind of hard to get a full stack of 5, and then when we lose one game the group disbands.
I played duo Q for a while and that's even worse than solo, I don't know how.
this reasoning is actually a key to solving your problem. Its a legit a classic, ive done it bunch of times too.
You gather a party, you play together, but you still cant win as much, as you think you should. Because your expectations were "Im gonna stop playing in a team with low skills, htat matchmaking gives me, instead i will play with hand picked people, who understand the game".
But in reallity, you ,guys are just bunch of people, who are looking for excuse on why you are losing. And then, when you lose, this feeling of "my team was not trying as hard, while i was doing my best" does not go away.
People don't play stacks of 5 because then you also face stacks of 5, and it doesn't solve anything you say it does. You aren't going to roflstomp as a stack, so what's the point? If you are still going to lose, it's not worth the effort setting up. Yea you avoid obvious griefers and that's all the positives you get.
Last edited by Weakside Wictor; Mar 8 @ 1:13am
EL_SATAN Mar 8 @ 1:21am 
Originally posted by oldschool:
the pattern is so obvious 4-6 good teams in a row, and if you win all of them you get 2-3 idiot teams in a row

i dont think they even try to hide it, there also seems to be some kind of artifical wall for me cause every time i hit a certain mmr my teams collapse then i quickly rise back to the same mmr and the teams become brain dead again(im going on 7 times now with this pattern, its beyond a hypothesis)

proof that mmr is rigged exists, read the text for ranked role matchmaking. it tells you it adjusts your mmr for each role but it doesnt reflect that adjustment in your actual mmr. that may not be what you mean by rigged, but its a version of rigged 100%

chess.com ratings dont have the same rigging and look at their mmr distribution then look at chart for dotas rank distribution. One of those charts is clearly broken, Ill let you decide which one it is

Exactly same here. I spoke with many of my friends who altogether are quite good players but they can't rank up. I was checking their game history - looks exactly same like mine. Everything around 50% win - 50% lose rate.

Same clown fiesta all the time. Few games normal - looks like people know what they are doing - then lose streak comes - most of the time at least 2 or even 3 cores do not know how to play the game. They do not know laning mechanics, dive and feed solo and blame others. Have got less farm than pos 4-5, more deaths and etc. Itemisation is completely wrong.

You may try as hard as you want - you CAN'T win 1 vs 9

We should have got individual performance MMR ratio - not RIGGED win/lose streak - but this will never happen - they love $$$ so they have to let bad players win - in other case they will be leaving the game and not spending any more $$$.

Modern games are just all like that - SBMM in most FPS games - works exactly the same.
Throwing around the word "rigged" so often is wild AF.
More so when all of the evidence people can present is "I wOn 15 gAMes nOw i aM loSINg gAMes". Are people honestly expecting to win every game? Even more so as a solo player where you have to play with randoms and hope to god that they can play their role.

Claiming it is rigged is preposterous, you can not pre-determie human nature. Sure people can be matched unfairly but that doesn't mean the people you're matched with are paid actors. People spamming the discussions with this subject are creating more problems for new players as they will see this and develop the copium that Valve was the reason they lost instead of looking at other issues i.e team comp, laning phase and other ways to improve. There is no need to jump at such conclusions, moreso when not a single person who has made this subject has ever been able to produce a shred of evidence to validate their claims. All they can do is link an old interview where devs said they want to make games 50/50 and then take it out of context to mean it is forced 50%.

As mentioned numerous times, just don't play solo. I see that you state that when you play in a team that they disband after a loss.......that is some weak mindset and can only assume that these are people you don't often play games with.

I didn't address this as I overlooked it, the phylactery on Axe used to be pretty common just for battle hunger slow and catch up. Going to guess it sucks big time now as I haven't seen it in any of my games for at least 2 months.

Have scanned through a few of your recent games, would I be right to assume you're not playing ranked roles? Will watch properly when i have woken up.
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Originally posted by JungleTears:
I hear you. Solo queue is 9 times out of 10 not fun that is true. Thats why i suggested a stack. You and me belive in different reasons why solo queue is not fun, but that its not fun is a fact. Absolutely.
Kind of hard to get a full stack of 5, and then when we lose one game the group disbands.
I played duo Q for a while and that's even worse than solo, I don't know how.
Yeah no I was actually talking about a legit 5 man stack. On reddit or here you can search for people, also in unranked if you're lucky you Find somebody that really clicks and is interested. That takes a while, it is networking kinda, but over time you will gather 5 people that are not toxic and you can fight other 5 man stacks. Get ready for the battle cup on the weekend and stuff. And trust me, if you find these type of people you will not disband not even after 20 loses in a row. Because you genuinely have fun. Been there done that.

Now I know not everybody wants to invest that time but if you are not a solo queue enjoyer (some really really enjoy that chaotic aspect) I doubt there is anything else you could do, to enjoy the game more in ranked, that all I have to say.

You said the matchmaker gives you loses to keep you engaged I suggested something.

You said its not about climbing but fun and I suggested something

If all you find is more problems to possible solutions, then nothing we will or can say would change that.

Well maybe valve could change 'something' but that is highly unlikely for the foreseeable future
Last edited by WhatIsLove?; Mar 8 @ 1:59am
Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:
Throwing around the word "rigged" so often is wild AF.
More so when all of the evidence people can present is "I wOn 15 gAMes nOw i aM loSINg gAMes". Are people honestly expecting to win every game? Even more so as a solo player where you have to play with randoms and hope to god that they can play their role.

Claiming it is rigged is preposterous, you can not pre-determie human nature. Sure people can be matched unfairly but that doesn't mean the people you're matched with are paid actors. People spamming the discussions with this subject are creating more problems for new players as they will see this and develop the copium that Valve was the reason they lost instead of looking at other issues i.e team comp, laning phase and other ways to improve. There is no need to jump at such conclusions, moreso when not a single person who has made this subject has ever been able to produce a shred of evidence to validate their claims. All they can do is link an old interview where devs said they want to make games 50/50 and then take it out of context to mean it is forced 50%.

As mentioned numerous times, just don't play solo. I see that you state that when you play in a team that they disband after a loss.......that is some weak mindset and can only assume that these are people you don't often play games with.

I didn't address this as I overlooked it, the phylactery on Axe used to be pretty common just for battle hunger slow and catch up. Going to guess it sucks big time now as I haven't seen it in any of my games for at least 2 months.

Have scanned through a few of your recent games, would I be right to assume you're not playing ranked roles? Will watch properly when i have woken up.
Nobody is expecting to win all their games, that's not what this is about. You shouldn't be hoping to god people can play they role, people should be around your skill level in your rank, isn't that what rank is for? Axe rushing phylactery in my game goes directly against all of that.
This isn't a thread of evidence, we are not having a court-case, nobody can give you evidence besides Valve, and they would never admit they use EOMM because it's anti-consumer, but at the same time generates more play-time and therefore money.
We are sharing our experience playing the game here.
If you are concerned about new players, shouldn't they be getting honest insight about how the game functions? Instead of putting your head in the sand?
Nobody with a life has a full stack of 5 available in an online game all the time. Most people have a few gaming buddies and that's it, not a whole squad.
Saying "just don't play solo" is not very productive.
You can't predetermine human nature, but I could fix a match in a heartbeat with all players being on the same rank, just give me winrate, kda, behaviour score, and preferred role.
I play ranked roles on Crusader 4.
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Originally posted by Alpha Omega Pepega:
If you think, that you need to force people to win and to lose, then you dont understand how ranked system actually works.
Now, dont fool yourself. If i look at any of your matches, i will find a lot of mistakes, most of them will be fundamental as well, trust me, i have exp with people like you. Just because buying phyl on axe is such an obvious example, it does not make all mistakes that you make worth any less. There is a reason why he is in the same skill bracket, as you are.
You would need to dig pretty damn deep in my games to find anything so obviously stupid as axe rushing phylactery and skipping blink. Stop trying to gaslight, you say in one sentence that "certain rank should know certain things" is false, then come up with a rank argument how he is the same rank as me. Time to decide if rank matters or not here.
For the reason he is my rank, he could've bought an account and is falling straight down, it could be an old account that was crusader like 5 years ago and he is back, it could be his friend/brother/girlfriend whoever playing on his account, it could be anything.
Originally posted by Alpha Omega Pepega:
this reasoning is actually a key to solving your problem. Its a legit a classic, ive done it bunch of times too.
You gather a party, you play together, but you still cant win as much, as you think you should. Because your expectations were "Im gonna stop playing in a team with low skills, htat matchmaking gives me, instead i will play with hand picked people, who understand the game".
But in reallity, you ,guys are just bunch of people, who are looking for excuse on why you are losing. And then, when you lose, this feeling of "my team was not trying as hard, while i was doing my best" does not go away.
People don't play stacks of 5 because then you also face stacks of 5, and it doesn't solve anything you say it does. You aren't going to roflstomp as a stack, so what's the point? If you are still going to lose, it's not worth the effort setting up. Yea you avoid obvious griefers and that's all the positives you get.
Mistake is a mistake, it does not matter what you call stupid.This axe may look at your gameplay and may find things, that he will find stupid there.
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Nobody is expecting to win all their games, that's not what this is about. You shouldn't be hoping to god people can play they role, people should be around your skill level in your rank, isn't that what rank is for? Axe rushing phylactery in my game goes directly against all of that.
This isn't a thread of evidence, we are not having a court-case, nobody can give you evidence besides Valve, and they would never admit they use EOMM because it's anti-consumer, but at the same time generates more play-time and therefore money.
We are sharing our experience playing the game here.
If you are concerned about new players, shouldn't they be getting honest insight about how the game functions? Instead of putting your head in the sand?
Nobody with a life has a full stack of 5 available in an online game all the time. Most people have a few gaming buddies and that's it, not a whole squad.
Saying "just don't play solo" is not very productive.
You can't predetermine human nature, but I could fix a match in a heartbeat with all players being on the same rank, just give me winrate, kda, behaviour score, and preferred role.
I play ranked roles on Crusader 4.

You could fix a match in a heart beat yet lose and complain relentlessly.......clearly it ain't that easy bub.
Honestly it is tiring trying to be nice to all of you "mACThmAKing iS rIGGEd" conspiracists, why is it so hard to accept that you cannot win every match or you won't always be matched with people on the same playing field? Yes I know this thread isn't about winning every match, but whenever you lose you come straight here to report what happened. So in essence if you win you don't come here, but if you lose it is (A) did this (B) didn't do that (C) I did nothing wrong.
It is on loop bro and it is tiresome seeing this. You mention my concern about new players and you then go on to say shouldn't they be getting honest insight......it isn't honest insight though is it?? it is you and numerous others giving out false information and skewed opinions based on what you "think" is happening. Putting my head in the sand?? Bro i am not the one relying on copium and theories to protect my ego.

Nobody with a life has a full 5 stack? This has to be a joke right? It isn't organising a movement..... it is saying "playing tonight" then joining a discord call.
I work 8 hours a day and funnily enough everybody I know also works 8 hours a day and we finish work then play once we have eaten, not just dota but other games. It is called having a friend group.
Are we still in this "gamers have no life" mindset?

I asked about ranked roles as I wasn't sure if you were forced into positions given how you change between mid etc
Valve is garbage. If this is how they treat their players in DOTA it's the same for DEADLOCK. Shame I was really looking forward to checking that out.

12 years valve. 12 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years and for half you had my account in the hidden pool. ♥♥♥♥ YOU.
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:
Throwing around the word "rigged" so often is wild AF.
More so when all of the evidence people can present is "I wOn 15 gAMes nOw i aM loSINg gAMes". Are people honestly expecting to win every game? Even more so as a solo player where you have to play with randoms and hope to god that they can play their role.

Claiming it is rigged is preposterous, you can not pre-determie human nature. Sure people can be matched unfairly but that doesn't mean the people you're matched with are paid actors. People spamming the discussions with this subject are creating more problems for new players as they will see this and develop the copium that Valve was the reason they lost instead of looking at other issues i.e team comp, laning phase and other ways to improve. There is no need to jump at such conclusions, moreso when not a single person who has made this subject has ever been able to produce a shred of evidence to validate their claims. All they can do is link an old interview where devs said they want to make games 50/50 and then take it out of context to mean it is forced 50%.

As mentioned numerous times, just don't play solo. I see that you state that when you play in a team that they disband after a loss.......that is some weak mindset and can only assume that these are people you don't often play games with.

I didn't address this as I overlooked it, the phylactery on Axe used to be pretty common just for battle hunger slow and catch up. Going to guess it sucks big time now as I haven't seen it in any of my games for at least 2 months.

Have scanned through a few of your recent games, would I be right to assume you're not playing ranked roles? Will watch properly when i have woken up.
Nobody is expecting to win all their games, that's not what this is about. You shouldn't be hoping to god people can play they role, people should be around your skill level in your rank, isn't that what rank is for? Axe rushing phylactery in my game goes directly against all of that.
This isn't a thread of evidence, we are not having a court-case, nobody can give you evidence besides Valve, and they would never admit they use EOMM because it's anti-consumer, but at the same time generates more play-time and therefore money.
We are sharing our experience playing the game here.
If you are concerned about new players, shouldn't they be getting honest insight about how the game functions? Instead of putting your head in the sand?
Nobody with a life has a full stack of 5 available in an online game all the time. Most people have a few gaming buddies and that's it, not a whole squad.
Saying "just don't play solo" is not very productive.
You can't predetermine human nature, but I could fix a match in a heartbeat with all players being on the same rank, just give me winrate, kda, behaviour score, and preferred role.
I play ranked roles on Crusader 4.
really dont get why this axe with phyl cant be crusader 4. Crusader 4 is a very low rank, like i have no idea what do u expect. Your theoretical knowleadge of what to buy is just a small part of your skill level. People buy trash items all the way at 7k too, so what?
You are either trolling at this point or you legit dont understand what rank is as an idea. In which case, i can kinda understand why are you hardstack in crusader bracket.
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Nobody with a life has a full stack of 5 available in an online game all the time. Most people have a few gaming buddies and that's it, not a whole squad.
Wow but that is nonsense. Idk where that backhanded comment came from but i do have a life haha

Like... huh? People play football in a team and thats 11 per team plus reserve players.

But why do you go into a city on some random football field and then say yeah man its not fun with all these RANDOM people.

This guy can not score a goal, and this guy has no idea how to defend.

And the goalie? dont get me started we would have won if he would be able to catch a ball.

It is in the nature of things, if you really really want COMPETITIVE RELIABLE fun then you better start getting those 5 people. What has that to do with having a life or not?

Its a competitve team game. Randoms are a problem and will always be one way or the other.
Last edited by WhatIsLove?; Mar 8 @ 3:27am
Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Nobody is expecting to win all their games, that's not what this is about. You shouldn't be hoping to god people can play they role, people should be around your skill level in your rank, isn't that what rank is for? Axe rushing phylactery in my game goes directly against all of that.
This isn't a thread of evidence, we are not having a court-case, nobody can give you evidence besides Valve, and they would never admit they use EOMM because it's anti-consumer, but at the same time generates more play-time and therefore money.
We are sharing our experience playing the game here.
If you are concerned about new players, shouldn't they be getting honest insight about how the game functions? Instead of putting your head in the sand?
Nobody with a life has a full stack of 5 available in an online game all the time. Most people have a few gaming buddies and that's it, not a whole squad.
Saying "just don't play solo" is not very productive.
You can't predetermine human nature, but I could fix a match in a heartbeat with all players being on the same rank, just give me winrate, kda, behaviour score, and preferred role.
I play ranked roles on Crusader 4.

You could fix a match in a heart beat yet lose and complain relentlessly.......clearly it ain't that easy bub.
Honestly it is tiring trying to be nice to all of you "mACThmAKing iS rIGGEd" conspiracists, why is it so hard to accept that you cannot win every match or you won't always be matched with people on the same playing field? Yes I know this thread isn't about winning every match, but whenever you lose you come straight here to report what happened. So in essence if you win you don't come here, but if you lose it is (A) did this (B) didn't do that (C) I did nothing wrong.
It is on loop bro and it is tiresome seeing this. You mention my concern about new players and you then go on to say shouldn't they be getting honest insight......it isn't honest insight though is it?? it is you and numerous others giving out false information and skewed opinions based on what you "think" is happening. Putting my head in the sand?? Bro i am not the one relying on copium and theories to protect my ego.

Nobody with a life has a full 5 stack? This has to be a joke right? It isn't organising a movement..... it is saying "playing tonight" then joining a discord call.
I work 8 hours a day and funnily enough everybody I know also works 8 hours a day and we finish work then play once we have eaten, not just dota but other games. It is called having a friend group.
Are we still in this "gamers have no life" mindset?

I asked about ranked roles as I wasn't sure if you were forced into positions given how you change between mid etc
What's the point of coming here after a win to brag about my 20-0 score that has been given me for free once in a while? It's proof enough matchmaking is trash, no matter which end of the spectrum. If it were to function correctly then I wouldn't go 20-0 ever because I'm playing with equally skilled opponents no? That concept is easy enough to understand?
Yet we are having games ending 6-46, but you conveniently ignore those, and when you have your back against the wall with no possible argument left, you pull the "just play in stacks bro".
Nobody cares, it's about soloq.
Originally posted by Alpha Omega Pepega:
really dont get why this axe with phyl cant be crusader 4. Crusader 4 is a very low rank, like i have no idea what do u expect. Your theoretical knowleadge of what to buy is just a small part of your skill level. People buy trash items all the way at 7k too, so what?
You are either trolling at this point or you legit dont understand what rank is as an idea. In which case, i can kinda understand why are you hardstack in crusader bracket.
Okay let's have an English lesson once again, Crusader is not "very low", very low is Herald.
And I'm not hardstuck, I went from guardian to crusader. You can either choose your words more carefully or I'm gonna call you a lier flat out, because you are saying the opposite of black and white observable facts.
I don't know what region you are playing, but when your offlaner is skipping blink on axe or lc which can barely function without it, you are losing games off that fact.
I'm really tired of this gaslighting and arguing for the sake of arguing. No, the axe wasn't some god-gamer genius that is inventing a new build that even pros will look at jealously, he isn't shaping meta real-time in my crusader 4 game, he is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, or probably griefing on purpose, one of those 2.
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
Originally posted by MovingTargetTez:

You could fix a match in a heart beat yet lose and complain relentlessly.......clearly it ain't that easy bub.
Honestly it is tiring trying to be nice to all of you "mACThmAKing iS rIGGEd" conspiracists, why is it so hard to accept that you cannot win every match or you won't always be matched with people on the same playing field? Yes I know this thread isn't about winning every match, but whenever you lose you come straight here to report what happened. So in essence if you win you don't come here, but if you lose it is (A) did this (B) didn't do that (C) I did nothing wrong.
It is on loop bro and it is tiresome seeing this. You mention my concern about new players and you then go on to say shouldn't they be getting honest insight......it isn't honest insight though is it?? it is you and numerous others giving out false information and skewed opinions based on what you "think" is happening. Putting my head in the sand?? Bro i am not the one relying on copium and theories to protect my ego.

Nobody with a life has a full 5 stack? This has to be a joke right? It isn't organising a movement..... it is saying "playing tonight" then joining a discord call.
I work 8 hours a day and funnily enough everybody I know also works 8 hours a day and we finish work then play once we have eaten, not just dota but other games. It is called having a friend group.
Are we still in this "gamers have no life" mindset?

I asked about ranked roles as I wasn't sure if you were forced into positions given how you change between mid etc
What's the point of coming here after a win to brag about my 20-0 score that has been given me for free once in a while? It's proof enough matchmaking is trash, no matter which end of the spectrum. If it were to function correctly then I wouldn't go 20-0 ever because I'm playing with equally skilled opponents no? That concept is easy enough to understand?
Yet we are having games ending 6-46, but you conveniently ignore those, and when you have your back against the wall with no possible argument left, you pull the "just play in stacks bro".
Nobody cares, it's about soloq.

No because you ignore psychology.

For example lets say you have 2 evenly skilled teams lets assume nobody troll picked and everybody is able to play the role well. Enemy pudge misses a hook and dies.

All chat

GG Pudge *tip*

Guy starts to get uncomfortable 5 mins later he misses a hook again.

All chat

Sorry guys that you have to deal with that pudge...

Suddenly everybody is looking at pudges hooks with intent. Maybe even some internal flaming going on. Maybe even somebody goes into jungle not caring anymore.

Because they dont know each other and some people are super fragile mentally and will break at 1% stress.

Suddenly that game snowballs in your favor. Was it because nobody can play or because of some minor things that the matchmaker would not be able to know?

Answer yourself this question.

Regarding an axe that builds nonsense and you are never feeding or whatever your argument was...

It is not about YOU it is about the fact that everytime you get 4 random teammates every game. Every 4 of those with a different life, different expectation, mindset, skillset mood etc.

You could have the best axe in archon if that guy comes from a 12 hour shift and gets to play with you while very tired the game will suffer.

There are so many things NO matchmaker can foresee.

What should we do. Forbid the axe from joining solo queue after that shift?

Why is this so hard to understand?

Let go of that argument even if you would have the PERFECT matchmaker the games would still be mostly not fun in solo queue because its a random clown show.
Last edited by WhatIsLove?; Mar 8 @ 3:39am
Originally posted by Weakside Wictor:
What's the point of coming here after a win to brag about my 20-0 score that has been given me for free once in a while? It's proof enough matchmaking is trash, no matter which end of the spectrum. If it were to function correctly then I wouldn't go 20-0 ever because I'm playing with equally skilled opponents no? That concept is easy enough to understand?
Yet we are having games ending 6-46, but you conveniently ignore those, and when you have your back against the wall with no possible argument left, you pull the "just play in stacks bro".
Nobody cares, it's about soloq.

So a loss is valve punishing and win is valve pitying you, so why on earth do you continue playing the game if your presence serves no purpose? It's wild that you can't see how ridiculous your points are.
This is the message you want newcomers to absorb when playing the game......and you claim that my head is in the sand.

You're playing with equally skill opponents?? Bro rank doesn't equate to skill, you need to lose this mindset. Skill is player based and also depends on if they are playing a signature hero etc.... rank just shows mmr number. Based on your logic all of the immortal account buyers would suddenly attain immortal level player skills.....
I don't have these games with overwhelming kill differences so i have nothing to ignore.
I have checked your last 10 scorelines and out of those not a single one had a kill difference like you mentioned. There was one where it went 22-56 and another (your most recent) where it was 15-41. Other than those there were no 40+ kill difference games.

We have already established that playing in stacks has more benefits than drawbacks, but the reality of this has been mentioned already, playing in a stack means you have acknowledge how you fail in aspects and can't resort to blaming valve for your issues. Probably why your stack quit after a loss, easier to blame randoms than it is to accept your short comings.
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