Dota 2
FullROMSimon Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:30am
How do you carry stupid people?
What I mean, is people that refuse to communicate, play like *unts, supports don't buy wards and go for stuff like Aghs as 1st item, and the carry does not know how to utilize the created space for him/her to get good farm.

Seriously, I'm not that great at DOTA2, but how are you supposed to win on your own, when you have 3-4 cry babies at your team? I play as BH roam, I kill the enemy courier 3 times in the laning stage, enemy mid did not get his bottle. I gave a significant gold advantage due to track, because my carry had MORE gold than theirs, but I still lost... And I lost because instead of doing something like push towers, often people just went on doing nothing. How do you motivate them to do anything, while the enemy team make good decisions?

I really want to climb the MMR ladder, but it seems that I'm always getting dragged down after a few wins when I get trapped with people that are salty for no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason.

tl;dr, how do you win with a team that doesn't communicate?
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ChemicalBacon Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:33am 
Mute all chat and play a hard carry
Go jungle and sap xp from lanes
If you are below 3K, it's highly unlikely you will get ganked early game
FullROMSimon Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Mute all chat and play a hard carry
Go jungle and sap xp from lanes
If you are below 3K, it's highly unlikely you will get ganked early game

3.6k, struggling to break the 4k barrier. Sadly, whenever I pick carry, what will happen is that the enemy will win their lanes before the 10min, and my team will blame me, even if I farm a 13min BF on Anti-Fun.

Either I'm extremely unlucky, or I'm so sh*t that others around me turn into sh*t.
Apocalypse Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:40am 
You are supposed to play greedy in such games.
Maybe, just maybe you will get lucky and snowball towards victory.
ChemicalBacon Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by JC Denton:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Mute all chat and play a hard carry
Go jungle and sap xp from lanes
If you are below 3K, it's highly unlikely you will get ganked early game

3.6k, struggling to break the 4k barrier. Sadly, whenever I pick carry, what will happen is that the enemy will win their lanes before the 10min, and my team will blame me, even if I farm a 13min BF on Anti-Fun.

Either I'm extremely unlucky, or I'm so sh*t that others around me turn into sh*t.
The other option is you play a roamer/nuker like clinkz or Nyx and just runa round murdering people at level 1 until you get so fat that you can just play solo
CHI LONG QUA Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:47am 
15% of games are unwinnable, 15% of games are unloseable.
Mighty Atom Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:48am 
i think there are three options
1) pick a snowball hero and go mid, or or jungle. This way you can attempt to carry the game without expecting help from your team.
2) pick a babysitting support, and keep your carry alive. Or try to fill in the inadequacies of your teammates
3) pick one of those heroes who can push the lanes and win the game alone like Leshrac, Naga Siren, Broodmother, ect...
Tanabata Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:54am 
If that is the dilemma, just what are the lone wolf types of heroes that you can play as?
Multi Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by jirehtheprovider385:
If that is the dilemma, just what are the lone wolf types of heroes that you can play as?

Meepo. ♥♥♥♥ your teams farm. you're all that matters.
Last edited by Multi; Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:55am
{-.-} Aug 10, 2015 @ 8:58am 
just lose the game ;x
lulborne Aug 10, 2015 @ 9:01am 
I don't know. I had a weird game with Lina couple of days ago. The people of my team were quite incompetent, I mean, really incompetent. We had a riki, that was heavily countered by Slardar and Bounty and then, the two other "genius" of my team, Invoker and Drow (they were playing together), bought a Shadow Blade...

Man, I raged in this game. I really lost my patient with the stupidity of these 3 (I had a friend that was playing Ursa and he was doing quite badly as well, but again, he's one of these people that max aura on CM first before any other spell regardless of what heroes we have in our team and still buys Battlefury on Bounty Hunter).

What I did... I just countered their pushes, farmed a Lina bit and played safe, picking only fights that I know I could win. Somehow we won. A miracle, really. Despite my flaming at the fools, I was even commended... I don't get it.

Anyway, there's nothing really much you can do. Just flow with the game and see if you can salvage something.

I mean, what exactly do you want us to tell? "Say this and that that maybe they might listen". Well, it doesn't work like that unfortunately. Sometimes you will get these people that don't understand that they are throwing the game and sometimes you are actually this person.

Maybe just pick a split pusher and try to do your own thing.
Last edited by lulborne; Aug 10, 2015 @ 9:07am
chickenhands Aug 10, 2015 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by JC Denton:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Mute all chat and play a hard carry
Go jungle and sap xp from lanes
If you are below 3K, it's highly unlikely you will get ganked early game

3.6k, struggling to break the 4k barrier. Sadly, whenever I pick carry, what will happen is that the enemy will win their lanes before the 10min, and my team will blame me, even if I farm a 13min BF on Anti-Fun.

Either I'm extremely unlucky, or I'm so sh*t that others around me turn into sh*t.

ty for the informationn about more salty people on 3k mmr.
chickenhands Aug 10, 2015 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by AfrikaanS:
15% of games are unwinnable, 15% of games are unloseable.

what about the remaining 70% ?
Vlad Crepeș Aug 10, 2015 @ 9:59am 
1.Pick Nyx
2.Get Dagon
3.Kill people
4. Max Dagon
5. Play the game as if it was a single player assasin simulator.
6.You should be able to win.
FullROMSimon Aug 10, 2015 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Big Daddy "Gofer":
1.Pick Nyx
2.Get Dagon
3.Kill people
4. Max Dagon
5. Play the game as if it was a single player assasin simulator.
6.You should be able to win.

That only works if the opposing team has potato level supports. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, most of the time I pick an invis hero, opposing team always carries dust or picks support Zeus.

Biggest win ratio belongs on Sand King (personally) out of 16 matches, I've won 14 of them, so maybe I should continue playing as him. Not a fan of playing a jungler hero, since after TI a roaming BH can really screw up your jungle.
Last edited by FullROMSimon; Aug 10, 2015 @ 10:30am
well in a bad game you Alt+F4
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