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Notnilc Aug 3, 2015 @ 12:53am
does crystalys stack?
tell me all the items that stack.
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ナルゴ Aug 3, 2015 @ 12:54am 
Yes but not additively.
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Notnilc Aug 3, 2015 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by Nargo:
Yes but not additively.
so if stack them u wud eventually have a 100% chance to get a crit?
Last edited by Notnilc; Aug 3, 2015 @ 12:55am
HASHIRO Aug 3, 2015 @ 1:02am 
Yes. You can count chance to proc with this:
(1-(.75)^n)*100%
n stands for number of your maelstroms.
For example, if you have 4 maels, it's
(1-(.75)^4)*100%=68,36%

(the formula shown works for both Mjollnir (maelstorm) and Daedalus (Crystalys),

basher, and lifesteal do not stack (unless Vladmir's and WK's 2nd)
MOOMLEM Aug 3, 2015 @ 1:07am 
4 daedulus gives you 100% crit chance but the crit damage does not add. (daedulus as an example)
Firerodan16 Aug 3, 2015 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by MCdisco67:
4 daedulus gives you 100% crit chance but the crit damage does not add. (daedulus as an example)
warning.Combining 4 daeds and a Divine Rapier does not end well
MOOMLEM Aug 3, 2015 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by Firerodan16:
Originally posted by MCdisco67:
4 daedulus gives you 100% crit chance but the crit damage does not add. (daedulus as an example)
warning.Combining 4 daeds and a Divine Rapier does not end well
M8 once in cheat mode lobby i got 4 daedulus 2 rapier techies. It was glorious.
ChemicalBacon Aug 3, 2015 @ 1:22am 
Originally posted by Mr_Didly:
Originally posted by Nargo:
Yes but not additively.
so if stack them u wud eventually have a 100% chance to get a crit?
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it
chickenhands Aug 3, 2015 @ 2:07am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by Mr_Didly:
so if stack them u wud eventually have a 100% chance to get a crit?
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it

recommended if ur using ember or sven
MOOMLEM Aug 3, 2015 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by chickenhands:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it

recommended if ur using ember or sven
only 2 or 3 at most on ember. 4 is a waste of slots which could be used for a controll item like shivas or skadi.
ChemicalBacon Aug 3, 2015 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by chickenhands:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it

recommended if ur using ember or sven
Let me put it this way, for every extra crystalis you buy you aren't getting the full value, more than 2 is just wasting gold and valulable slots

You get 2 at most, then you start maxing your damage so your crits hit harder
No point getting 2 crit items that stack diminishingly if you have next to no damage
Originally posted by MCdisco67:
4 daedulus gives you 100% crit chance but the crit damage does not add. (daedulus as an example)
I did not know this. I need to try it some day. :D
Notnilc Aug 3, 2015 @ 2:45am 
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Originally posted by chickenhands:

recommended if ur using ember or sven
Let me put it this way, for every extra crystalis you buy you aren't getting the full value, more than 2 is just wasting gold and valulable slots

You get 2 at most, then you start maxing your damage so your crits hit harder
No point getting 2 crit items that stack diminishingly if you have next to no damage
about that, wtf does diminishingly mean?
i know what it means as a word, but in this context wtf? if u get 4 daedulus then u have 100% then it isnt diminishing at all. its just 25% + 25% + 25% + 25% its not like it diminishes eah tme u stack it

theres this whole thing on evasion that explains this wierd diminishing ♥♥♥♥ with blur + butterfly and im like isnt 50% + 30% 80%? why do you need this whole forum page and its own formula just for addition?


btw if u get backtrack + butterfly does that mean u can dodge and negate at the same time?
Notnilc Aug 3, 2015 @ 2:46am 
& is 2 crystalys + kunkka a good build?
ChemicalBacon Aug 3, 2015 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Mr_Didly:
Originally posted by Chemicalbacon:
Let me put it this way, for every extra crystalis you buy you aren't getting the full value, more than 2 is just wasting gold and valulable slots

You get 2 at most, then you start maxing your damage so your crits hit harder
No point getting 2 crit items that stack diminishingly if you have next to no damage
about that, wtf does diminishingly mean?
i know what it means as a word, but in this context wtf? if u get 4 daedulus then u have 100% then it isnt diminishing at all. its just 25% + 25% + 25% + 25% its not like it diminishes eah tme u stack it

theres this whole thing on evasion that explains this wierd diminishing ♥♥♥♥ with blur + butterfly and im like isnt 50% + 30% 80%? why do you need this whole forum page and its own formula just for addition?


btw if u get backtrack + butterfly does that mean u can dodge and negate at the same time?
Thats the point, you don't add crits togeather. They diminish.
4 daedalus isn't 100% crits.

Also, backtrack isn't evasion, so butterfuly or talisman won't suffer any penalties and it is done as a seperate calculation. However evastion doesn't evade spells, only backtrack does that
ChemicalBacon Aug 3, 2015 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Mr_Didly:
& is 2 crystalys + kunkka a good build?
It's alright but it's luck based, it counts on that first tidebringer swing being a crit
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