Juggers ulti going through BKB if started before bkb..should this be altered?

[Niggi]

just trying to see how you guys feel about this subject

[amungus]

It goes through magic immunity by default, and damage is physical, so no

[PizzaDroid]

Originally posted by Wha-Silly:

It goes through magic immunity by default, and damage is physical, so no

+1

[Castamere]

just buy E-Blade its better because not only does it make you immune you can target a buddy of yours and he will be immune aswell

[Deepbluediver]

A lot of ultimates go through BKB, or at least the damage from them does. The item is already pretty strong; it would be OP otherwise.

[Crafozura]

BKB = Magic -- Juggernaut ulti = Physical

[FAMED~Peek A Boo]

you can buy a ghost scepter against him :)

[Castamere]

yep E Blade is a little better though

[Chicken]

Jug is weak any nurf would just wreck him.

[Niggi]

thx guys..nice insight provided here....

[NinjutStu]

BKB only blocks regular spells, it does not block most ults (although it can negate damage from ults).

In general all ults will pierce through bkb. Some ults are exceptions to the rule, but in general the hit and effects of the ult will land, but any magic damage will still be blocked.

Here's a few examples

• Necro's ult will stun and lockdown an opponent using bkb, but the damage will be blocked.
  
• Luna's ult simply casts multiple beams of her regular lunar beam spell. A bkb will block all of the magic damage from it.
  
• Lion's ult is pure magic damage with no stun. BKB blocks the spell completely.
  
• Bloodseeker's Rupture and Doom's doom are both HP removal. Even with BKB up, you can be targeted and will still take damage as it is not "magic damage".
  
• Juggernaut's ult deals physical damage. Thus bkb does not protect against it. It can still be dodged with anything that avoids physical attacks (Eul's, ghost scepter, etc).

I will also note that there is exceptions to bkb blocking magic damage from ults. Lina's Laguna Blade ult goes through BKB if she has scepter. By design it pierces all forms of magic immunity. This was a somewhat recent buff that changed Laguna Blade and Finger of Death from being so similar. FoD gained scepter AOE damage and LB gained magic piercing.

[Island E]

Originally posted by Ninja Stu:

BKB only blocks regular spells, it does not block most ults (although it can negate damage from ults).

In general all ults will pierce through bkb. Some ults are exceptions to the rule, but in general the hit and effects of the ult will land, but any magic damage will still be blocked.

Here's a few examples

• Necro's ult will stun and lockdown an opponent using bkb, but the damage will be blocked.
  
• Luna's ult simply casts multiple beams of her regular lunar beam spell. A bkb will block all of the magic damage from it.
  
• Lion's ult is pure magic damage with no stun. BKB blocks the spell completely.
  
• Bloodseeker's Rupture and Doom's doom are both HP removal. Even with BKB up, you can be targeted and will still take damage as it is not "magic damage".
  
• Juggernaut's ult deals physical damage. Thus bkb does not protect against it. It can still be dodged with anything that avoids physical attacks (Eul's, ghost scepter, etc).

I will also note that there is exceptions to bkb blocking magic damage from ults. Lina's Laguna Blade ult goes through BKB if she has scepter. By design it pierces all forms of magic immunity. This was a somewhat recent buff that changed Laguna Blade and Finger of Death from being so similar. FoD gained scepter AOE damage and LB gained magic piercing.

nerd

[Fino]

Originally posted by LDagger.Terror:

Originally posted by Ninja Stu:

BKB only blocks regular spells, it does not block most ults (although it can negate damage from ults).

In general all ults will pierce through bkb. Some ults are exceptions to the rule, but in general the hit and effects of the ult will land, but any magic damage will still be blocked.

Here's a few examples

• Necro's ult will stun and lockdown an opponent using bkb, but the damage will be blocked.
  
• Luna's ult simply casts multiple beams of her regular lunar beam spell. A bkb will block all of the magic damage from it.
  
• Lion's ult is pure magic damage with no stun. BKB blocks the spell completely.
  
• Bloodseeker's Rupture and Doom's doom are both HP removal. Even with BKB up, you can be targeted and will still take damage as it is not "magic damage".
  
• Juggernaut's ult deals physical damage. Thus bkb does not protect against it. It can still be dodged with anything that avoids physical attacks (Eul's, ghost scepter, etc).

I will also note that there is exceptions to bkb blocking magic damage from ults. Lina's Laguna Blade ult goes through BKB if she has scepter. By design it pierces all forms of magic immunity. This was a somewhat recent buff that changed Laguna Blade and Finger of Death from being so similar. FoD gained scepter AOE damage and LB gained magic piercing.

nerd

weakling

[AAAAAAAAAAAAA]

Originally posted by Captain Levi:

yep E Blade is a little better though

Eblade = upgrade ghost scepter

[Not a Seagull]

Originally posted by Ninja Stu:

BKB only blocks regular spells, it does not block most ults (although it can negate damage from ults).

In general all ults will pierce through bkb. Some ults are exceptions to the rule, but in general the hit and effects of the ult will land, but any magic damage will still be blocked.

Here's a few examples

• Necro's ult will stun and lockdown an opponent using bkb, but the damage will be blocked.
  
• Luna's ult simply casts multiple beams of her regular lunar beam spell. A bkb will block all of the magic damage from it.
  
• Lion's ult is pure magic damage with no stun. BKB blocks the spell completely.
  
• Bloodseeker's Rupture and Doom's doom are both HP removal. Even with BKB up, you can be targeted and will still take damage as it is not "magic damage".
  
• Juggernaut's ult deals physical damage. Thus bkb does not protect against it. It can still be dodged with anything that avoids physical attacks (Eul's, ghost scepter, etc).

I will also note that there is exceptions to bkb blocking magic damage from ults. Lina's Laguna Blade ult goes through BKB if she has scepter. By design it pierces all forms of magic immunity. This was a somewhat recent buff that changed Laguna Blade and Finger of Death from being so similar. FoD gained scepter AOE damage and LB gained magic piercing.

This is not completely true.
Most ultis will, yet not all (Tide, most notably)
also some regular spells will pierce bkb (berserker's call, venomous gale (only slow, that is))

so just play a lot of dota and you will find out what does and does not pierce bkb, takes a lot of time to find out because the mechanics of dota are irregular concerning immunity and purgeability.