Invoker quas/wex vs quas/exort

[Mooky]

So I have recently gotten much better with Invoker. I almost always go quas/wex in games until late game when it doesn't matter as much because of the higher levels in exort. But what I'm trying to get at is, why when I play a game with him starting of as quas/exort I play like ♥♥♥♥? I know the spells and I've played the damn hero enough times. But for some reason if I start with q/e over q/w I just always lose my lane hard. Is the playstyle really that different?

[YuriScientist]

1. pick invoker
2. build wex/exort
3.???
4. mmr: over 9000

[✪ DJ Zack]

You lose lane hard of qw because you lack the lasthit damage, so you cant lasthit/deny in your lane ( usually with 45dmg+ which is very low ) causing you to lose your lane.
I recommend going qw, when you need the manaburn against certain heroes, or the teamfight ability and great disable to opposing team. Pick qw, when enemy team has got mana-dependant heroes, with low mobility, like Pudge, WK , CK and other STR heroes. QW is tanky, but lacks mana sometimes in early levels, and cant outlane enemy by lasthits.

You basically go QE ( 4-1-4 ) when you need to win your lane against some lane winners like qop. Also, you go QE if you need to go as a carry. QE is so freaking good and powerful. Especially 4-1-4 build. Very strong in early game to lategame, but lacks the escape mechanism and mobility, which is far far more better with QW cuz it gives you 400+ ms and nice hp.

My favourite hero and most played is invoker, and i know stuff really good about him.

Messaggio originale di Plushy:

So I have recently gotten much better with Invoker. I almost always go quas/wex in games until late game when it doesn't matter as much because of the higher levels in exort. But what I'm trying to get at is, why when I play a game with him starting of as quas/exort I play like ♥♥♥♥? I know the spells and I've played the damn hero enough times. But for some reason if I start with q/e over q/w I just always lose my lane hard. Is the playstyle really that different?

[76561198135898730]

NECROPOST! (I hope not)

How I build up the skills: Level 1 = Exort, Level 2 = Wex, Level 3 = Invoke: so that I can use alacrity for creeps and meteor for the hero, then Level 4 = Quas.
After that, the next levels I will increase Exort and Quas 'til both of 'em get to Level 4 (4-1-4 build): so that I have 2 Forged Spirits instead of 1. If you're a streak-hungry player, QE is the best for you. I got so many Triple Kills and some Ultra Kills in DotA 1, and some in DotA 2 with that build. The "Pure Exort Type" is not really recommended, why? Because having a high level Wex can match the total damage of a "Pure Exort" Meteor (Wex increases the travel distance of the meteor right?). And Sun Strike can kill most of red-HP heroes even if you only have like level 4 or 5 Exort. One more thing, the answer to "QE or QW" is not necessarily that you level up Quas-Exort or Quas-Wex only. Adding at least 1 level to the other element gives you a flexibility in the game. Like you can use Cold Snap if needed (for the ministun), Ghost Walk / Ice Wall if needed (Both for escaping or slowing). In short, you can use ANY invokable skills if you have the three of 'em.
Invokah is my favorite hero in DotA! And will always be!