Jugg ulti too OP?

[Killemajaro]

i never realized until now that jugg's ulti goes past evasion (even without mkb)

was playing windranger, used my E ability (100% evasion) jugg's ulti pwn'd me everytime.

makes me wonder, why do ppl pick PA to counter jugg if evasion doesn't matter?

[Multi]

the one reason i think it's op is that it ignores linken's. it activates it, but he still does the remaining jumps on you. it's kind of dumb.

[clab]

I don't think it is an OP skill, but I do think it is a good Ultimate. A good omnislash can win teamfights, but there are some easy ways to counter it, Ghost Scepter being my favorite. I also wasn't aware that it goes through windrun, something to keep in mind.

[clab]

And, depending on the farm, I think a PA can outcarry a Juggernaut, but it also depends on circumstances, and a little bit of luck.

[Psychotic Man]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Killemajaro:

makes me wonder, why do ppl pick PA to counter jugg if evasion doesn't matter?

Last I heard, it's the other way around.

Sniper beats Juggernaut because Juggernaut has no blink

Juggernaut beats PA because his ult can't be dodged

PA beats Sniper cause blink.

They form the classic rock-paper-scissor triad.

[clab]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Psychotic Man:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Killemajaro:

makes me wonder, why do ppl pick PA to counter jugg if evasion doesn't matter?

Last I heard, it's the other way around.

Sniper beats Juggernaut because Juggernaut has no blink

Juggernaut beats PA because his ult can't be dodged

PA beats Sniper cause blink.

They form the classic rock-paper-scissor triad.

Yeah thats generally how it is, but I think it is a little bit more complex, especially when it comes to PA vs Jug. PA vs Sniper is kind of a nobrainer, if PA jumps him he almost always dies. But if PA jumps a Juggernaut, depending on the farm, it could go either way.

[Kiulunkeisari]

jug ult used to cancel channeling spells and TP's aswell..

[stoat]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Paul Blart:

the one reason i think it's op is that it ignores linken's. it activates it, but he still does the remaining jumps on you. it's kind of dumb.

If you target it on a linkens that's alone, dosen't it cancel the whole ult if there's nothing else to jump to?

[Multi]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ecol:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Paul Blart:

the one reason i think it's op is that it ignores linken's. it activates it, but he still does the remaining jumps on you. it's kind of dumb.

If you target it on a linkens that's alone, dosen't it cancel the whole ult if there's nothing else to jump to?

not sure. i only see it happen when i have one idiot teammate run around next to me. but idk. i tend to avoid juggernaut regardless.

[:DDDDDD]

what can jugg do in late game? NOTHING ITS A TRASH HERO WHICH NEVER WINS AGAINST ME ^)^

JUST LAST PICK DAZZLE &_&

[Mike]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ecol:

If you target it on a linkens that's alone, dosen't it cancel the whole ult if there's nothing else to jump to?

linkens will dodge only first jump. other jumps will do damage. Windrun dosnt dodge Jugg's ult, it is an exception. For me that is a bit strange too, coz description says "all physical attacks" and Jugg's ult is physical. But I know that it still dont dodge it.

[Samwise Gamgee]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Psychotic Man:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Killemajaro:

makes me wonder, why do ppl pick PA to counter jugg if evasion doesn't matter?

Last I heard, it's the other way around.

Sniper beats Juggernaut because Juggernaut has no blink

Juggernaut beats PA because his ult can't be dodged

PA beats Sniper cause blink.

They form the classic rock-paper-scissor triad.

Juggernaut can kill Sniper anytime and if u want can get a blink too

PA can kill Juggernaut but its relative to the farm of each one, and she can dodge it with counters if she want.

Sniper can kill PA too but same thing as adove

For the OP, Jugger ults said that Omnislash hits cant miss...

[Alkami]

I believe they removed the ministun of jugs ult. And they also made is so teleporting doesn't remove ghost form. This update made it so if jug ults you you can safely ghost scepter and tp out.

[Psychotic Man]

Oprindeligt skrevet af SamsagazGamyi:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Psychotic Man:

Last I heard, it's the other way around.

Sniper beats Juggernaut because Juggernaut has no blink

Juggernaut beats PA because his ult can't be dodged

PA beats Sniper cause blink.

They form the classic rock-paper-scissor triad.

Juggernaut can kill Sniper anytime and if u want can get a blink too

PA can kill Juggernaut but its relative to the farm of each one, and she can dodge it with counters if she want.

Sniper can kill PA too but same thing as adove

For the OP, Jugger ults said that Omnislash hits cant miss...

With enough farm, any carry can beat another carry. My point was that there would be certain advantage to certain heroes in a fight.

Juggernaut will not be able to reach a good Sniper easily because Shrapnel plus is extremely long range make sure blink dagger is disabled most of the time. Also, considering Juggernaut needs other items as well to be effective late game, a blink dagger would set him back quite a bit in terms of money and inventory slot.

Sniper is extremely squishy with regards to fighting PA. A PA can easily crit and kill a Sniper without breaking a sweat because she can easily blink to him and get an attack speed steroid to proc crits.

As for Juggernaut vs PA, in a general situation, a Juggernaut can ult PA and kill her because his ultimate alone deals 3000 physical damage which is undodgable, and at least some of his auto attacks will hit PA. Also, considering PA can't blink away when there is nothing to blink towards, she won't be able to disjoint Juggernaut in a mano-e-mano.