Dota 2
Jenoh Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:35pm
Does Ancient Apparition belong in the dumpster?
I dont hate the hero but just by looking at his stats spells movement speed and his ult he keeps getting praise about, its all rather lackluster.

like so slow idk why he's so slow since he has no reliable stun and a slow and costs way too much chilling touch is cool tho thats powerfull but his ult is so meh there are much better dots in the game I mean if someones already at 12% wouldnt they be already dead? zeus and axe's ult seems much more viable

idk can anyone explain why he's ok?
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J_A_P_G Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:37pm 
Ancient Apparation is absolutely horrific in 10v10, because not only is he good at AOE, but 10v10 doesn't punish you for leaving. So he can launch his ulti right into enemy spawn and farm all the heroes who left.
I saw this happen in one of my games (AA was on my side), and it was hilarious. The other team was freaking out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElXGllTpp0

q: suck, only gud as follow up disable
w: gud
e: early to mid game autowin teamfight
r: lmao no heals and instant kill on super low hp enmy champ
J_A_P_G Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by Salva:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ElXGllTpp0

q: suck, only gud as follow up disable
w: gud
e: early to mid game autowin teamfight
r: lmao no heals and instant kill on super low hp enmy champ
Q's good once you have W and launch a teamfight. 4 second stun is srs bsns.
lulborne Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:42pm 
u r deh 1 dat belong in the dumpest u meanie.
Woody Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:44pm 
A very situational hero. Pretty bad in most cases but good in a few, might need a buff but buffing him would nerf many heroes indirectly since he can hard counter them.
Pizzashot Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:54pm 
Just buy the Octarine and the enemy will hate you and your ulti.
Last edited by Pizzashot; Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:55pm
Yuriverse Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:56pm 
If I were to make a list of top 10 supports, i'll surely include AA there. he provides a good setup for your team especially for your carries, W's cast range to scout blind spots also the slow it gives to enemy, Q is really good too if you have Eul's you can target one enemy carry and Eul's so their killing plan will be distracted, E is good for your team carries, and R of course one of the game changing ultimates in the game with Aghs upgrade, easily shuts Alchemist, Legion, Ursa, Lifestealer, Troll and other fast healing heroes (came from ability or item)
Last edited by Yuriverse; Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:57pm
The_Technomancer Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:57pm 
Q:Turn and run or be stunned.
W:Turn and run or increase the magic damage you take.
E:More damage for the carries.
R:A good length of time of no healing, reduced maximum health, and damage over time. It's quite similar to doom in the sense of watching your health tick away while you can't do anything about it.
cenfre Aug 19, 2015 @ 8:24pm 
>ti5 winning hero

>dumpster
Jenoh Aug 19, 2015 @ 8:26pm 
Originally posted by 2k MMR Cenfre:
>ti5 winning hero

>dumpster
Wel I mean any hero can be good if youre in a five man group with great coomunication and be like 7k mmr
Multi Aug 19, 2015 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by 2k MMR Cenfre:
>ti5 winning hero

>dumpster
This is about AA, not earth shaker.




Anyways i dont like the hero. His model is boring, he's relatively weak and slow. I think he could use a buff, but not a removal. I feel the same way about oracle. Just totally underused supports right now.
Jenoh Aug 19, 2015 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by Finnegan O'Grady:
Originally posted by 2k MMR Cenfre:
>ti5 winning hero

>dumpster
This is about AA, not earth shaker.




Anyways i dont like the hero. His model is boring, he's relatively weak and slow. I think he could use a buff, but not a removal. I feel the same way about oracle. Just totally underused supports right now.
I couldnt agree more even something like a movement speed buff would be huge or make his ice vortex like 50 mana at all ranks to be his bread and butter spell
pannicatack Aug 19, 2015 @ 9:13pm 
He has one of the best teamfight ults in the game. The low cooldown also means you can use it fairly liberally. Feels great to snipe people who are running back to the fountain.
ChickenSoup Aug 19, 2015 @ 11:53pm 
Originally posted by Finnegan O'Grady:
Originally posted by 2k MMR Cenfre:
>ti5 winning hero

>dumpster
This is about AA, not earth shaker.




Anyways i dont like the hero. His model is boring, he's relatively weak and slow. I think he could use a buff, but not a removal. I feel the same way about oracle. Just totally underused supports right now.
Actually if you look at it, the ice vortex made es echo deals pure damage along with the ice blast. Everyone sees it like AA did nothing while echo slam did all the damage.
pannicatack Aug 19, 2015 @ 11:55pm 
Originally posted by Soundscape:
Originally posted by Finnegan O'Grady:
This is about AA, not earth shaker.




Anyways i dont like the hero. His model is boring, he's relatively weak and slow. I think he could use a buff, but not a removal. I feel the same way about oracle. Just totally underused supports right now.
Actually if you look at it, the ice vortex made es echo deals pure damage along with the ice blast. Everyone sees it like AA did nothing while echo slam did all the damage.
Let's not forget that ppd did technically get a double kill.
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Date Posted: Aug 19, 2015 @ 7:35pm
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