Dota 2
FriendFive Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:20am
Is Eye of Skadi bad on Phantom Lancer?
In a match last night, two of my buddies were commenting disparagingly about the enemy teams' Phantom Lancer who built an Eye of Skadi. Please help me understand why that is so terrible. Looking at the DOTA 2 wiki, I see the following regarding illusions:

Passive abilities Illusions can use
  • Raw Health or Mana
  • Attribute Bonus (Strength, Agility and Intelligence)

So then I read for the entry about the Eye of Skadi that it grants:

  • +25 Strength
  • +25 Agility
  • +25 Intelligence
  • +250 Health
  • +250 Mana

So PL's illusions will benefit from all of that.

The downside is:

Passive abilities Illusions cannot use
  • Most Unique attack modifiers

From what I understand, Skadi's passive Cold Attack is a UAM, so the illusions won't benefit from that.

So is the argument against this build that it is an expensive item that you are not getting full benefit from (because the passive won't apply to the illusions), and it is taking up an item slot for something else you could have bought with all of that gold that you would get full benefit from?


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jin Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:22am 
I'd rather pick Skadi over Heart (Both doesn't sound really bad)
Lahel Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:24am 
Skadi's slow and health really are pretty good for PL.
HeribertFugs Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:28am 
Skadi is such a great item on PL. Both PL and Illusions get much needed stats and tankiness. The passive on Skadi is just a nice addition, but on any hero I get Skadi, it's because I want those awesome stats.
FriendFive Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:30am 
So to be clear, the passive Cold Attack will be applied to the real PL's attacks, but not his illusions' attacks, right?
TripleSteal- Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:30am 
skadi is like default item for pl.

btw HoT is actually rather bad, at least in top mmr games and competitive.
leo2fish Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:34am 
Usually you want a few heavy damage items like Diffusal 2 or Radiance on PL before you invest into tank/stat items. The scaling of Skadi is great as a 3rd or 4th big item, not as a 1st or 2nd.
leo2fish Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by TripleSteal-:
skadi is like default item for pl.

btw HoT is actually rather bad, at least in top mmr games and competitive.

I feel HoT's a good item, especially on heroes like spectre/weaver who relies on a big HP pool to have their skills/passive scale even better.
Immaculatebacon Dec 16, 2015 @ 7:22am 
I prefer heart, because PL is not invincible in fight, but can easily escape and come back with full health.
Boxxybabe Dec 16, 2015 @ 7:25am 
The Slow is legit, the hp is good and overall stats are desired. Good item, but situational, like most.
Multi Dec 16, 2015 @ 7:29am 
skadi's fine on him. it's the best stat item in the game. the stats go into the illusions. not sure what your friends were talking about.
FriendFive Dec 16, 2015 @ 7:33am 
Thanks for the replies, all. I am not trying to rag on my friends; they are way better at DOTA 2 than I am. I am just asking questions so that I can learn more.
Sammy Dec 16, 2015 @ 8:00am 
both items are good.. but HoT helps you rejoin the fight after a few seconds..
Umman Kudu Dec 16, 2015 @ 8:38am 
to me its a good item but it is not my first big item. I say 3rd or 4th on the big item list
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Date Posted: Dec 16, 2015 @ 6:20am
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