Dota 2
Red Field Dec 16, 2020 @ 8:28pm
What to do as offlaner/support if core carry sucks balls?
Void waits for all teammates to die and uses chrono to kill support instead of sven and then dies to sven... TF am I suppsoed to do in such a game?
Originally posted by ItsBread:
build a core offlane build,thats why I always play as offlane and i will pick heroes like lc and others that can "carry" the game,and after that just look at ur carry lane/performance after 8 minutes ish,if the carry is doing good and im playing heroes like wraith king/sven ill just do aura build,but if they are not doing good at all and cant play well then im going 50/50 meaning some aura itema and some item like echo sabre/radiance.
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tulgaA Dec 16, 2020 @ 8:44pm 
keep play and search good carry ,collect em in yr friend list :P
Duchess Minty Dec 16, 2020 @ 9:44pm 
Shove lanes in nonstop so that they might eventually come online.
Zagryzaec Dec 16, 2020 @ 10:31pm 
Originally posted by staticchargeredfield:
Void waits for all teammates to die and uses chrono to kill support instead of sven and then dies to sven... TF am I suppsoed to do in such a game?
Do not die as his teammates untill he put down his chrono. Then kill sven yourself while he is disabled.
76561198859466813 Dec 16, 2020 @ 10:37pm 
Convince your team to report him so he gets banned, dota doesn't tolerate noob and mistake
Tony Shor Dec 16, 2020 @ 10:42pm 
Yesterday had a game in Turbo as offlane Lifestealer, I had only one teammate, witch doctor, and 3 more anchors in team. Enemy had 24k gold advantage at some point, and the game lasted for 35 mnts, which is quite a lot time for Turbo, and only reason we lasted so long and eventually won, is because me and wd won our lane, and thus our team had at least something to offer against their stomp.
PS. Funny how I was 5/1 and Omni was 2/5 in early game, and yet he got MVP cause he used purification 70 times. I've carried the game on my own (with a little bit of help from wd) but that doesn't matter, dude used prfctn 70 times, WHOA! good job, omni. I've died like 2 times because of him.
Last edited by Tony Shor; Dec 16, 2020 @ 10:44pm
Fear the beard Dec 16, 2020 @ 11:21pm 
It's easy, you cant do anything if your pos1 in anally anguished and mentally broken , just sink with the boat and sing ''Way down we go'' :D
Bara Bada Basto Dec 16, 2020 @ 11:24pm 
Originally posted by staticchargeredfield:
Void waits for all teammates to die and uses chrono to kill support instead of sven and then dies to sven... TF am I suppsoed to do in such a game?

keep playing and report them for griefing untill volvo removes new player experience update
Ulthwé Dec 16, 2020 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Tony Shor:
Yesterday had a game in Turbo as offlane Lifestealer, I had only one teammate, witch doctor, and 3 more anchors in team. Enemy had 24k gold advantage at some point, and the game lasted for 35 mnts, which is quite a lot time for Turbo, and only reason we lasted so long and eventually won, is because me and wd won our lane, and thus our team had at least something to offer against their stomp.
PS. Funny how I was 5/1 and Omni was 2/5 in early game, and yet he got MVP cause he used purification 70 times. I've carried the game on my own (with a little bit of help from wd) but that doesn't matter, dude used prfctn 70 times, WHOA! good job, omni. I've died like 2 times because of him.

LS offlane is kinda awful in offlane though, almost 0 possibilty to pressure the lane.
Ulthwé Dec 16, 2020 @ 11:46pm 
Originally posted by staticchargeredfield:
Void waits for all teammates to die and uses chrono to kill support instead of sven and then dies to sven... TF am I suppsoed to do in such a game?

You are supposed to stop relying on me, you should consider that you are playing without him until he has godlike farm and can actually do something.

It depends on what kind of offlane you play. If you are a tanky pos 3, I doubt you can transition to carry. If you are a bristle or an axe, I don't think your build would change without a carry. However, if you are are a pangolier or a WR you can still replace him. Same goes for pos 4, although, here again it really depends on which pos 4 you picked, earth spirit isn't going to transform into a carry, but a pos 4 mirana could if she builds appropriate items. If it happens to me as a pos 5, I go carry.

Like in the following game with WW, although we still lost, https://www.opendota.com/matches/5513664999
Победа! Dec 17, 2020 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by staticchargeredfield:
Void waits for all teammates to die and uses chrono to kill support instead of sven and then dies to sven... TF am I suppsoed to do in such a game?
search for friends
Red Field Dec 17, 2020 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by Hyōga:
You are supposed to stop relying on me, you should consider that you are playing without him until he has godlike farm and can actually do something.
No, I mean late game... I play Doom and there's nothing much i can do vs Sven... I either doom him, or I doom their hard support/nuker and then die after everyone focuses me down..
Point is, what do I do when the core carry is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with 25IQ, who can't carry for ♥♥♥♥?(Like legit this guy activates Mad Mask and wonders why he can't chrono)

It depends on what kind of offlane you play. If you are a tanky pos 3, I doubt you can transition to carry. If you are a bristle or an axe, I don't think your build would change without a carry. However, if you are are a pangolier or a WR you can still replace him. Same goes for pos 4, although, here again it really depends on which pos 4 you picked, earth spirit isn't going to transform into a carry, but a pos 4 mirana could if she builds appropriate items. If it happens to me as a pos 5, I go carry.
Doom can't really replace the core carry.. sure he can counter most melee carries, but that's only 1v1 and with all ur gold to urself. Playing as an offlane tank means u have to make sacrifices and choose aura items...

Like in the following game with WW, although we still lost, https://www.opendota.com/matches/5513664999
I mean there's only so far that u can go playing a semi-carry role...
Red Field Dec 17, 2020 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by DELIKOV:
keep play and search good carry ,collect em in yr friend list :P
Meh.. I prefer playing solo.. thx anyways...
Red Field Dec 17, 2020 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by Lady Mint:
Shove lanes in nonstop so that they might eventually come online.
???
Red Field Dec 17, 2020 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Zagryzaec:
Originally posted by staticchargeredfield:
Void waits for all teammates to die and uses chrono to kill support instead of sven and then dies to sven... TF am I suppsoed to do in such a game?
Do not die as his teammates untill he put down his chrono. Then kill sven yourself while he is disabled.
Easier said then done when u have a noob void who uses MadMask and runs around in panic doing absolutely nothing coz he can't activate his chrono

Also afaik chrono stops teammates as well, has this changed?
Red Field Dec 17, 2020 @ 12:28am 
Originally posted by New player:
Convince your team to report him so he gets banned, dota doesn't tolerate noob and mistake
I guess the only option left...
I just wish there was a way to report ♥♥♥♥♥♥ players and have them get kicked from the game, making it safe to leave...
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