Is anyone else very angry about the dota2 matchmaking system

[apk]

I've been playing dota2 for almost 10 years and have over 7k+ matches but lately I've been getting matched up with new players that make my gaming experience extremely bad and my win rate very low. Why should we, old players, sacrifice the game experience to do the balance. This system will not only keep new players, but also drive away old players. Very crap matchmaking system ！！！！！

[76561199750026804]

10 years 1 or 3 trolls. all time search hero 1 or 3 dumb. can't see anyone 1 or 3 blind noobs. always struggle keyboard one newbie. public solo match to fun.

[Absche]

I don‘t play video games I get angry about or that are crap. At least not for long. And if I love a game itself but I’d get angry about the game giving me bad team mates I would get my own team. Another aspect: a community that doesn’t take effort to get fresh blood on board is a no future community.

[pos 3 (360)]

Same play 11 years 5k hours
Play only with new players just created account with 0 wins and games
I call it balanced

[HardNRG]

Sounds like you're at the very bottom of the MMR list if you see new players, its a skill issue, which is why you, as a no skill person, are there to make the balance for the new guys.

[76561199750026804]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von HardNRG:

Sounds like you're at the very bottom of the MMR list if you see new players, its a skill issue, which is why you, as a no skill person, are there to make the balance for the new guys.

I remember that the enemy mid player was a new player. I died 3 times and afk after 3 minutes later. I got 16 times kills him. he leave the game without saying anything

[Siwyj]

Yes. Just wanted to create post with the same. They throw in the team players with several 1000 games and noobs who don't know that supports should place wards.

[『EusuntDracul』]

TRust me... I stopped playing Rank MMR games coz of idiots who play supports as carries and carries as pos4 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trying to copy Ti players.

[Muro]

It's been like this for quite a while now.

[[H.E.] ✟Alric Do Rei✟]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von FBL:

Very crap matchmaking system ！！！！！

My friend, it is just as you say, Valve has messed up big this year.

[:D]

no

[Rabbit 🍌]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Absche:

I don‘t play video games I get angry about or that are crap. At least not for long. And if I love a game itself but I’d get angry about the game giving me bad team mates I would get my own team. Another aspect: a community that doesn’t take effort to get fresh blood on board is a no future community.

About fresh blood do you include the developers in "community"? New players/friends trying out the game are sometime put off by the fact that a bunch of tooltip in Dota 2 are inevitably outdated and that new player material (such as tutorials) is crap as well as bots.

The bots are broken, coop vs bots is dead most of the time and yeah all the outdated stuff I mentioned plus the game doesn't invite new players in like most other game that catch player with progression bar and new player goals as soon as they come in. (League of Legend will bombard new players with dopamine filled reward when they arrive).

Every time Valve makes an update that aim for new player experience (I mean that happened once or twice) it's outdated within a month and completly useless after a year. Plus the game is obviously not promoted anywhere.

[will]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von FBL:

I've been playing dota2 for almost 10 years and have over 7k+ matches but lately I've been getting matched up with new players that make my gaming experience extremely bad and my win rate very low. Why should we, old players, sacrifice the game experience to do the balance. This system will not only keep new players, but also drive away old players. Very crap matchmaking system ！！！！！

I am.
But Not really angry. Only fighting against it.
See my message in french. (or my profile).

[Absche]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rabbit 🍌:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Absche:

I don‘t play video games I get angry about or that are crap. At least not for long. And if I love a game itself but I’d get angry about the game giving me bad team mates I would get my own team. Another aspect: a community that doesn’t take effort to get fresh blood on board is a no future community.

About fresh blood do you include the developers in "community"? New players/friends trying out the game are sometime put off by the fact that a bunch of tooltip in Dota 2 are inevitably outdated and that new player material (such as tutorials) is crap as well as bots.

The bots are broken, coop vs bots is dead most of the time and yeah all the outdated stuff I mentioned plus the game doesn't invite new players in like most other game that catch player with progression bar and new player goals as soon as they come in. (League of Legend will bombard new players with dopamine filled reward when they arrive).

Every time Valve makes an update that aim for new player experience (I mean that happened once or twice) it's outdated within a month and completly useless after a year. Plus the game is obviously not promoted anywhere.

Doesn't that mean that the community is even more demanded to take care?

[Rabbit 🍌]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Absche:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rabbit 🍌:

About fresh blood do you include the developers in "community"? New players/friends trying out the game are sometime put off by the fact that a bunch of tooltip in Dota 2 are inevitably outdated and that new player material (such as tutorials) is crap as well as bots.

The bots are broken, coop vs bots is dead most of the time and yeah all the outdated stuff I mentioned plus the game doesn't invite new players in like most other game that catch player with progression bar and new player goals as soon as they come in. (League of Legend will bombard new players with dopamine filled reward when they arrive).

Every time Valve makes an update that aim for new player experience (I mean that happened once or twice) it's outdated within a month and completly useless after a year. Plus the game is obviously not promoted anywhere.

Doesn't that mean that the community is even more demanded to take care?

In a sense yes, in another no. Community wise it can be frustrating to invest time and effort in a software over which you have no control that is then neglected by its owner. It might lead the community to rather push people away from the product by shame and disapointement.

It's like this feeling of being the manager of a place you don't own. You try to bring new workers in, but at the same time you feel like you're bringing them into hell because the work conditions are getting worst and worst over factors you aren't even allowed to control. You can be friendly and tolerant to new employees and offer them a socialy viable workplace, but that's about it. You can't decide to give out more hours to more workers to reduce the work load even during rush hour and black friday time, key products are often "backorder" in your company while the next door shop has them all and salaries are ♥♥♥♥ plus you often can't give out proper lunch brake and the coffee machine is constantly broken while the company refuses to buy a new one and rather sends a technician that will make it work for a day or two until it brakes again because some components would need to be straight up replaced and not just reajusted.

At this point you almost want your workplace to head into bankruptcy so that the top owners finaly decide to make proper structural changes (which they can most certainly do because they are billionairs).

[Absche]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rabbit 🍌:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Absche:

Doesn't that mean that the community is even more demanded to take care?

In a sense yes, in another no. Community wise it can be frustrating to invest time and effort in a software over which you have no control that is then neglected by its owner. It might lead the community to rather push people away from the product by shame and disapointement.

It's like this feeling of being the manager of a place you don't own. You try to bring new workers in, but at the same time you feel like you're bringing them into hell because the work conditions are getting worst and worst over factors you aren't even allowed to control. You can be friendly and tolerant to new employees and offer them a socialy viable workplace, but that's about it. You can't decide to give out more hours to more workers to reduce the work load even during rush hour and black friday time, key products are often "backorder" in your company while the next door shop has them all and salaries are ♥♥♥♥ plus you often can't give out proper lunch brake and the coffee machine is constantly broken while the company refuses to buy a new one and rather sends a technician that will make it work for a day or two until it brakes again because some components would need to be straight up replaced and not just reajusted.

At this point you almost want your workplace to head into bankruptcy so that the top owners finaly decide to make proper structural changes (which they can most certainly do because they are billionairs).

It's like the relationship of a Tennis Club and its members on one hand and a tennis hall operator on the other hand. Each may point fingers on the other to take care of the newbies or share the responsibility for a bright future or a no future.