Does deso stack with basher?

[cc\\Nox]

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[Flabberyayo]

Yes, as Basher is not a Unique Attack Modifier.

[ChemicalBacon]

Yep, also basher is a must for any agil/str. heros with no stun skill (like ursa)

[Flabberyayo]

Well, for the melee ones. And not for all.

[Todd Howard]

Originally posted by FGFlabbie:

Well, for the melee ones. And not for all.

Haven't tested it, but it seems like it would be good on Huskar due to his massive ias.

[Flabberyayo]

Originally posted by LDagger.Eightfold:

Originally posted by FGFlabbie:

Well, for the melee ones. And not for all.

Haven't tested it, but it seems like it would be good on Huskar due to his massive ias.

You already have a massive slow that removes half the enemys HP, you don't really need the stun. The chance is very low anyway. Damage/Survivability is better

[76561198078917864]

Originally posted by LDagger.Eightfold:

Originally posted by FGFlabbie:

Well, for the melee ones. And not for all.

Haven't tested it, but it seems like it would be good on Huskar due to his massive ias.

The chance is lower for ranged heroes.

So get MKB for huskar if you are interested in auto attack stuns.

[Todd Howard]

Originally posted by FGFlabbie:

Originally posted by LDagger.Eightfold:

Haven't tested it, but it seems like it would be good on Huskar due to his massive ias.

You already have a massive slow that removes half the enemys HP, you don't really need the stun. The chance is very low anyway. Damage/Survivability is better

True enough.

[Todd Howard]

Originally posted by Nobody:

Originally posted by LDagger.Eightfold:

Haven't tested it, but it seems like it would be good on Huskar due to his massive ias.

The chance is lower for ranged heroes.

So get MKB for huskar if you are interested in auto attack stuns.

an mkb is nearly twice the price of a skullbasher though, and a skullbasher stuns for 1.4 seconds while mkb stuns for .001 seconds.

[ZELTA]

with husker not realy.. go with , armour, life steal, crit strike amd BKB..

[NinjutStu]

In general, basher is never recommended on ranged heroes due to the lower proc rate. Bash on ranged heroes is amazing (try Clinkz or someone with Slardar's bash in ability draft), so to balance this bash has a super low proc rate on ranged.

Honestly, MKB and the ministun is a better investment for ranged heroes. The smaller stun time is worth it for the higher proc rate. It's still annoying to enemies trying to move and will interrupt channeling.

[cc\\Nox]

Seems to me that basher on WR could be great in certain situations, like if the opposing team has WK and Alch and both have gone early bkb

[Todd Howard]

Originally posted by CHaOS:

Originally posted by Ninja Stu:

In general, basher is never recommended on ranged heroes due to the lower proc rate.

What about Windrunner? Consider this:

Troll Warlord's innate bash has a 10% chance to proc and in activating Melee Form, he gains an Attack Time Reduction down to 1.55 base attack time. At max attack speed(x4 base attack speed), his attack time falls down to around 0.387 attack time.

If Windrunner buys a Basher, she gets only a 10% chance to proc it(same chance as TW bash), her innate attack time is 1.5(slight improvement), and because her ult is an automatic max attack speed buff, her attack time falls to around 0.375 attack time.

She has the same chance as Troll Warlord and a better attack time, plus the added bonus of staying a few feet away. Would a basher be good as a situational pickup on Windrunner?

I think it's viable on any high-attackspeed heroes, both melee and ranged. If you went for a carry build, you could even build it into an abyssal blade and get another guaranteed stun, with the possibility to stun more than half their team if you're good with positioning.

[Shirohige.HD]

Basher on Sniper, the secret pub winner build, the stunner build:

Boots, MoM, Basher, MKB, Speed item (butter, mjollnir, sange and yasha). Try to escape from him, you cant