Is there ANY proper item guide ?

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

I'm looking for an item guide that explains which heroes need specific type of stats.
Like, I don't need to hear what each and every item do, I just need to know what the heroes need.

I know I shouldn't buy arcane boots right away while playing a mage or something.
For example, what do I need when I play Crystal Maiden?

What stats or items do I need if I want to play her as a damage dealer ?
What stats or items do I need if I want to play her as a support ?

I know certain heroes relies on some items like Earthshaker + Blink dagger and stuff.
All the damn tutorials are just getting overcomplicated I don't even know most of the items anyway.

Not only that, I can't play most of the heroes, they're locked.
I'm trying to learn the game in Turbo mode (Think like getting familiar with it I do know the actual game is far away from Turbo mode) but since 60% of the heroes are locked I can't.

And by stats, I mean like: What stat do I need as a Mage ?
Intelligence ? Attack speed ? Movement speed ?
What kind of stat amplifies my damage and overall performance ?

[Kampfkekskrieger EXP Folk Master]

as everything is individual... it depends on YOU. and whether you want to compensate with items at all.
or only want something gloryful.
the items are just flavour you still must do your main root after and after you will find out.

just pick what is missing.
you need more health? you need a stun? you depend already too much on items? you cant get so much money? then you need to drop and go with skill...

its better to find out what you suit with.

e.g. I dont like several things that I find cheap or cheesy/ laming me when playing instead of helping

[Louffe]

Here is a guide for Crystal Maiden.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3373408253&searchtext=crystal+maiden+position+5

I forgot Force Staff in situational items but you can change this in the guides tab.

Neutral items are the best picks from tier1 to tier4.

As shared, make your own one asap !

PS : TOTALLY forgot to mention Ghost Scepter (check Ethereal Blade). Cheap save item to avoid to be attacked or bashed.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Oh wait so you can make a tiny menu with the items you chose ?
Well that would be a lot more helpfull if I knew it earlier.

I use the shop with all the items and tried to select correct items in it.

[Louffe]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Oh wait so you can make a tiny menu with the items you chose ?
Well that would be a lot more helpfull if I knew it earlier.

I use the shop with all the items and tried to select correct items in it.

xD

Without a guide, this game is unplayable.
Go to Heroes -> Guides -> Create

PS : do not underestimate Infused Drop. Just a piece of advice. Life saver before the 10min mark against magic (such as Crystal Maiden or Skywarth Mage spamming).

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

I already finished all the guides tho, only 2 scenarios left which one of them requires a couach and other one is a friend to play with.
And I couldn't find both of them so I just abandoned them.

But yeah I guess I need to check to item guides as well.
For the past 20 or 25 games I always played with recommended guide (The guide game gives you from the first place)
And tried to change it myself.

What else I should do ? Anyone have any other recommendation ?

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Originally posted by Louffe:

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Oh wait so you can make a tiny menu with the items you chose ?
Well that would be a lot more helpfull if I knew it earlier.

I use the shop with all the items and tried to select correct items in it.

xD

Without a guide, this game is unplayable.
Go to Heroes -> Guides -> Create

PS : do not underestimate Infused Drop. Just a piece of advice. Life saver before the 10min mark.

You say that while I JUST learned that I should buy smokes of deceit on the beggining while playing support LOL.

Thank god I played Turbo and not ruined people's games.

[Louffe]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

I already finished all the guides tho, only 2 scenarios left which one of them requires a couach and other one is a friend to play with.
And I couldn't find both of them so I just abandoned them.

But yeah I guess I need to check to item guides as well.
For the past 20 or 25 games I always played with recommended guide (The guide game gives you from the first place)
And tried to change it myself.

What else I should do ? Anyone have any other recommendation ?

Jeez the recommended / default guide is THE WORST of all.
What a piece of crap. After thousands of hours, I can still spot players relying on it xD.

What a joke.

Really, make your own with your own layout.

What else ? Use Alt + shift to queue your items.
As hard support I always queue my main items + 1 mango + 1 observer + 1 sentry.
Once they are available at shop or you have the money for it, you can see it immediately.

What else ? Go to the menu and fine tune the keys for your spells, per hero.
Fundamental, too.

What else ? In the menu, click on solo queue only.

What else ? Adapt the map options in the menu.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Originally posted by Louffe:

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

I already finished all the guides tho, only 2 scenarios left which one of them requires a couach and other one is a friend to play with.
And I couldn't find both of them so I just abandoned them.

But yeah I guess I need to check to item guides as well.
For the past 20 or 25 games I always played with recommended guide (The guide game gives you from the first place)
And tried to change it myself.

What else I should do ? Anyone have any other recommendation ?

Jeez the recommended / default guide is THE WORST of all.
What a piece of crap. After thousands of hours, I can still spot players relying on it xD.

What a joke.

Really, make your own with your own layout.

Is it really that ♥♥♥♥ ?
Because If so, that explains why everyone else was more powerfull and had more sustain than me in early game.

Okay I really need to get a coach or something
Thank god others can't watch my replays

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Originally posted by Louffe:

Jeez the recommended / default guide is THE WORST of all.
What a piece of crap. After thousands of hours, I can still spot players relying on it xD.

What a joke.

Really, make your own with your own layout.

Is it really that ♥♥♥♥ ?
Because If so, that explains why everyone else was more powerfull and had more sustain than me in early game.

Okay I really need to get a coach or something :steamlaughcry:
Thank god others can't watch my replays

They are... Iffy. They are just something devs throw together when character is just created, but meta often outgrows them pretty quickly.
You should see my custom Sven guide I made for myself. It's unhinged.

I would love to explain more of the game if you want, but I'll be back from work in about 2 hours.

[Louffe]

Here is a replay from one of my game.

I tried to find a balanced, close one, as hard support.

DO NOT PLAY Spirit Breaker hard support ! It's a soft support !
I was just frustrated that day by some losses and wanted to play, actively play.

But at least you can check the lane phase, I made it clean.

Go to watch -> replays -> search : 8047126413

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Originally posted by Louffe:

Here is a replay from one of my game.

I tried to find a balanced, close one, as hard support.

DO NOT PLAY Spirit Breaker hard support ! It's a soft support !
I was just frustrated that day by some losses and wanted to play, actively play.

But at least you can check the lane phase, I made it clean.

Go to watch -> replays -> search : 8047126413

Spirit Breaker is on my perma ban list.
I don't want that b--ch on enemy team

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Originally posted by Louffe:

Here is a replay from one of my game.

I tried to find a balanced, close one, as hard support.

DO NOT PLAY Spirit Breaker hard support ! It's a soft support !
I was just frustrated that day by some losses and wanted to play, actively play.

But at least you can check the lane phase, I made it clean.

Go to watch -> replays -> search : 8047126413

Spirit Breaker is on my perma ban list.
I don't want that b--ch on enemy team

Eh... Over time you learn that every hero is OP if not given enough countering (usually draft issue). SB is top tier, but not that top.

Personally I have a vivid hatred of Witch Doctor. I despite his poison that can't be countered in any way and despise switcheroo with passion. The less I see of that naked savage the better.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Originally posted by Artek General:

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Spirit Breaker is on my perma ban list.
I don't want that b--ch on enemy team

Eh... Over time you learn that every hero is OP if not given enough countering (usually draft issue). SB is top tier, but not that top.

Personally I have a vivid hatred of Witch Doctor. I despite his poison that can't be countered in any way and despise switcheroo with passion. The less I see of that naked savage the better.

Witch doctor has a poision ?
You mean his E ?
How much damage can it output ?

And just played a game and lost terribly due to picks. Oh well

[Louffe]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Originally posted by Artek General:

Eh... Over time you learn that every hero is OP if not given enough countering (usually draft issue). SB is top tier, but not that top.

Personally I have a vivid hatred of Witch Doctor. I despite his poison that can't be countered in any way and despise switcheroo with passion. The less I see of that naked savage the better.

Witch doctor has a poision ?
You mean his E ?
How much damage can it output ?

And just played a game and lost terribly due to picks. Oh well

Maledict is not really a poison. It amplifies the spells and attacks damages over time.

When casted, it checks the initial HP of the target. Then, every second, it checks the current HP. According to the gap between the initial and current HP, it deals extra damages. Larger the gap is, higher are the extra damages.

An easy counter to that in lane is the magic stick or wand, or any spell healing or granting a shield. With the stick or the wand you close the gap and reduce the damages of Maledict. They can even be reduced to zero if the current HP are equals to the initial HP. A Tango can help, too. Abaddon and its shield absorb the bursts. You can heal with Omniknight, Warlock, Undying, etc.

A very good duo in offlane is actually Witch Doctor and Brewmaster. At level 2, they are killing machines and they are unstoppable at level 3, once Brewmaster gets Rolling Barrel level 2. Even a stick or a wand cannot change this. Only Abaddon can maybe do something about it or eventually a talented Undying. At level 6, this duo is great.

I am a Brewmaster player. When I see a Witch Doctor soft support pick, believe me, I do not hesitate that much and I ask the mid or the safelaner to pick a magic oriented hero, too.

PS : you do not have access to Brewmaster, yet. He is rated as level 3 hero.

[Louffe]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Originally posted by Louffe:

Here is a replay from one of my game.

I tried to find a balanced, close one, as hard support.

DO NOT PLAY Spirit Breaker hard support ! It's a soft support !
I was just frustrated that day by some losses and wanted to play, actively play.

But at least you can check the lane phase, I made it clean.

Go to watch -> replays -> search : 8047126413

Spirit Breaker is on my perma ban list.
I don't want that b--ch on enemy team

My point was to share a replay as hard support, just to give you an example of game and help you in your journey. It was not that focus on the hero, in this case SB.

I just warned about the fact SB is, normally, a soft support. And yes, I confirm it is its best fit.