Core problem with RANKED match making.....

[Gaz]

I appreciate match making is complex and you'll never have a system that gives MMR based on just your performance, some times you will get bad teams and sometimes good teams.

However for the life of me I don't know how valve allows people to queue roles and pick heroes they cant play. Ranked match making should be about try harding yet too many times I see team dotabuff of people queuing core roles with heroes they have 10 games on or 30 % win rates. It gives impacted teams a severe penalty and simply can be huge factors in ruining games.

Player pick pools should be restricted to heroes they have proven they can play at a given rank. Should be a simple solution to roll out. No more pos 1 30% win rate Monkey Kings etc,..

[Dinsdale]

Originally posted by StaticRD:

Originally posted by Conde Olaf:

That's not the problem, their matchmaking is just BAD AS HELL. That's all.

They're so bad at calibrating people's skill, that sometimes it makes me think its on purpose.
I honestly don't know how they manage to be so bad, it seems they write their code with their ♥♥♥♥ holes.

ofcourse its on purpose. if the matchmaking is bad as hell it means its intentionally bad which means its rigged. Theres a reason never once when they show me my monthly report card action taken on players ive reported its never smurf action taken even though that is the thing i report the most in this game lmao. The smurf report button in this game isn't real its just a decoration. They want you to never stop playing there game by always giving the player a false sense of progression cuz if you climbed players would feel less incentive to play eventually which means less players overall. There are people in this game with 10k + games who are 10x better than the rank there in but yet somehow they've been stuck there forever. The game decides when you climb but other than that its just forced 50-50 at all times, thats why games are so one sided. Your either stomping or getting stomped. Its just a bunch of highs and lows in dota matchmaking, its like a roll coaster

Man these "rigged" posts scream nutcase all over it.

[Dinsdale]

Originally posted by StaticRD:

Originally posted by Dinsdale:

Man these "rigged" posts scream nutcase all over it.

your posts scream "i work for valve"

Original.

[Kugelschreiber]

Originally posted by StaticRD:

Originally posted by Kugelschreiber:

I wont proof your "fact" for you, you made the statement not me.
If you cant back it up urself, i just have to assume its made up and ur just spreading a conspiracy theory.

your literally the most obvious valve shield. You spend your days in these threads desperately trying to defend the integrity of valve. There isnt enough money you can pay me to do such a job

cool story bro.
you spend your days hating on the game and calling people valve employees day and night.

[Kugelschreiber]

Originally posted by Conde Olaf:

That's not the problem, their matchmaking is just BAD AS HELL. That's all.

They're so bad at calibrating people's skill, that sometimes it makes me think its on purpose.
I honestly don't know how they manage to be so bad, it seems they write their code with their ♥♥♥♥ holes.

I only have little experience in programming and all this stuff, but i find it difficult for people to develope such an in-depth system that is basically flawless.
There are so many factors that play into this.
On the surface it looks like its only mmr and maybe bs that count when getting matched or calibrating ones skill level, but in reality its those two + kde, alltime games played, roles u pick/play, recent reports, stacked camps, gpm, xpm and more.
A fool would now say: ah just let the system search for players that have these stats similar to other players.
Sounds easy, but it really isnt (from a logcial standpoint).
This is because none of those stats are „absolutely“ and indicate skill by any means.
For example a player could have 10k games but could be playing like a herald and dont understand anything about the game…sounds weird i know, but even i experienced such people.
Or for example kde and xpm isnt a good indicator for skill either.
Maybe in cod, where teamwork is absolute, you can define skill by KD, but not in Dota, Dota relies on Teamplay.
If a carry plays 0 5 0 earlygame than this doesnt necessarily mean he sucks at the game, only people <3k mmr think that, because they have no clue about such things like: lane counterpicks, sups taking carries jungle farm, sups not supporting in general, enemy snowballing and the fact that carries obviously have a hard time in early stages of the game especially when the rest of the team gives 0 f***s about them.
If you ask me, Valve has a good matchmaking system, its certainly not the best thats for sure, but i wouldnt blame them for it not being flawless either, because from a logical perspective it kinda makes sense, because i believe developing such a flawless matchmaking system is nearly impossible.

[عبد الله]

in the end, it is just a game. Don't be too serious lads, just enjoy the game