Slardar is a bit too strong IMO

[sadge]

57% winrate? What kind of reetarded bu.llshtt is this? There's almost no counter to this hero. This is just insane. Blink, press W, press R, gg no re. Trying to lock him down? He presses Q as soon as your chain stuns are over after taking a beating with his insane armor and strength gain and there goes all your mana for nothing.

[A Street Sweeper]

57% winrate? according to who?

He's a pretty good hero, but hardly unbeatable. Any ethereal kicks his ass since even crush is physical. Purges (abaddon, oracle, legion, omni) are really good against him as well since he does very little without amp.

[MyriadSaws]

Slardar is really powerful if he gets good farm, but usually has a pretty bad laning phase. Considering he's actually pretty weak if you don't let him initate on you, he can be ganked easily early and warded agaisnt late.

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I would say Slark instead of Slardar.

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Originally posted by Dr Taco Monster:

57% winrate? according to who?

He's a pretty good hero, but hardly unbeatable. Any ethereal kicks his ass since even crush is physical. Purges (abaddon, oracle, legion, omni) are really good against him as well since he does very little without amp.

Ethereal Blade is almost improbable on a carry. Manual purges are limited and/or come with massive cooldowns (e.g. even Ursa Aghs has an 18 sec cd) while his Amplify damage is 5 seconds. You listed mostly melee heroes which get destroyed by the 25% bash chance.

Originally posted by MyriadSloths:

Slardar is really powerful if he gets good farm, but usually has a pretty bad laning phase. Considering he's actually pretty weak if you don't let him initate on you, he can be ganked easily early and warded agaisnt late.

His laning phase is ridiculous actually. If he has a boots and orb of venom he can get first blood VERY easily with slithereen crush's nearly 2-second stun and 2 second slow, plus at level 2 he basically outruns 90% of heroes with his sprint even if he doesn't have boots.

His Amp damage needs to be nerfed to 8 seconds. It's just ridiculous. If you don't lock him down for the full teamfight he can basically wreak havoc by pressing R and letting his carries do all the dirty work.

[Charname]

But if there is no Midas Hand,I think his role in the late will be small.And it hit the speed is not fast money.

[MyriadSaws]

Originally posted by MY TEAM = ALWAYS SHT:

Originally posted by Dr Taco Monster:

57% winrate? according to who?

He's a pretty good hero, but hardly unbeatable. Any ethereal kicks his ass since even crush is physical. Purges (abaddon, oracle, legion, omni) are really good against him as well since he does very little without amp.

Ethereal Blade is almost improbable on a carry. Manual purges are limited and/or come with massive cooldowns (e.g. even Ursa Aghs has an 18 sec cd) while his Amplify damage is 5 seconds. You listed mostly melee heroes which get destroyed by the 25% bash chance.

Originally posted by MyriadSloths:

Slardar is really powerful if he gets good farm, but usually has a pretty bad laning phase. Considering he's actually pretty weak if you don't let him initate on you, he can be ganked easily early and warded agaisnt late.

His laning phase is ridiculous actually. If he has a boots and orb of venom he can get first blood VERY easily with slithereen crush's nearly 2-second stun and 2 second slow, plus at level 2 he basically outruns 90% of heroes with his sprint even if he doesn't have boots.

His Amp damage needs to be nerfed to 8 seconds. It's just ridiculous. If you don't lock him down for the full teamfight he can basically wreak havoc by pressing R and letting his carries do all the dirty work.

Eblade maybe, but BKB works even better. And in terms of manual purges, there are some really good ones. Such as slark, legion, etc. And theres always diffusal.

So many problems with your laning phase statements. First, he has pretty bad stats for laning early, and is easy to harass. Before sprint is maxed, which is not during laning phase, his speed is really not that good. He's not tanky enough to towerdive at low levels, his stun is impossible to land without max sprint or blink, and his ult can be purged easily.

[Bestjam]

Win rate? Slardar 53.70%

And if he is so OP just play him yourself.

[Hempest]

Just look at OPs name thats all you need to tell you that he is 2k trash.

[DUCKBRAIN]

slardar is nt op in way too catch up ppl who try to flee its op cuz now he have phase boot in his Q and his ult plain broken against low mmr chicken wing little no armor hero . Counter dragon knight and you laught of him

[A Street Sweeper]

Originally posted by MY TEAM = ALWAYS SHT:

Originally posted by Dr Taco Monster:

57% winrate? according to who?

He's a pretty good hero, but hardly unbeatable. Any ethereal kicks his ass since even crush is physical. Purges (abaddon, oracle, legion, omni) are really good against him as well since he does very little without amp.

Ethereal Blade is almost improbable on a carry. Manual purges are limited and/or come with massive cooldowns (e.g. even Ursa Aghs has an 18 sec cd) while his Amplify damage is 5 seconds. You listed mostly melee heroes which get destroyed by the 25% bash chance.

Not just ethereal blade... ethereal. So GS, pugna. Abaddon and omni are melee, but they aren't supposed to be standing there trading blows with him lol. I mentioned them because they can purge. With LC, if he goes on you you can purge and blade-mail. Unless you are so many miles behind him that the game is over anyway, there isn't much he can do about this. Then you can also purge the amp off other people.

How are you getting destroyed by his bash anyway? It's a good bash, but his ATK speed is awful, bash shouldn't be relevant until quite late in the game. Certainly not enough to stun lock you.

Like I said, he's a good hero, but if you're convinced that nothing works against him I reckon the problem is execution more than strategy.

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Originally posted by Hempest:

Just look at OPs name thats all you need to tell you that he is 2k trash.

changed it to suit your ego a bit better, should be about the size of your mom's d1l.do. hope it helps!

Originally posted by MyriadSloths:

Eblade maybe, but BKB works even better. And in terms of manual purges, there are some really good ones. Such as slark, legion, etc. And theres always diffusal.

So many problems with your laning phase statements. First, he has pretty bad stats for laning early, and is easy to harass. Before sprint is maxed, which is not during laning phase, his speed is really not that good. He's not tanky enough to towerdive at low levels, his stun is impossible to land without max sprint or blink, and his ult can be purged easily.

Bash goes through BKB. I can literally 1v1 an antimage with BKB if I have my own BKB because the 25% chance locks him down so hard. Bad stats? Do stats really matter in teh early game when everyone has less than 1k hp under ten minutes? You don't need to max sprint to move 10-30% faster than everyone else. Level 1 sprint is 20% move speed bonus which is HUGE, not to mention it costs 0 mana and has a 5 sec cooldown. Any half-decent slardar player will get their blink dagger in under 15 minutes and any player with half a brain can get it in under 20. Even before blink dagger it's not hard to just sprint in from behind trees and stun the crap outta people. You don't tower dive with slardar unless you can guarantee a kill. Purges are limited like I already said, either by quantity (diffusal) or long cooldowns.

[Bestjam]

Originally posted by dota isn't even a team game:

Bash goes through BKB. I can literally 1v1 an antimage with BKB if I have my own BKB because the 25% chance locks him down so hard. Bad stats? Do stats really matter in teh early game when everyone has less than 1k hp under ten minutes? You don't need to max sprint to move 10-30% faster than everyone else. Level 1 sprint is 20% move speed bonus which is HUGE, not to mention it costs 0 mana and has a 5 sec cooldown. Any half-decent slardar player will get their blink dagger in under 15 minutes and any player with half a brain can get it in under 20. Even before blink dagger it's not hard to just sprint in from behind trees and stun the crap outta people. You don't tower dive with slardar unless you can guarantee a kill. Purges are limited like I already said, either by quantity (diffusal) or long cooldowns.

Please post your dotabuff to show everyone all these games where you have decimated the opposition with this OP hero.

[dango]

as i remember barathrum (spirit breaker) is better than slardar in many terms

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Originally posted by Bestjam:

Originally posted by dota isn't even a team game:

Bash goes through BKB. I can literally 1v1 an antimage with BKB if I have my own BKB because the 25% chance locks him down so hard. Bad stats? Do stats really matter in teh early game when everyone has less than 1k hp under ten minutes? You don't need to max sprint to move 10-30% faster than everyone else. Level 1 sprint is 20% move speed bonus which is HUGE, not to mention it costs 0 mana and has a 5 sec cooldown. Any half-decent slardar player will get their blink dagger in under 15 minutes and any player with half a brain can get it in under 20. Even before blink dagger it's not hard to just sprint in from behind trees and stun the crap outta people. You don't tower dive with slardar unless you can guarantee a kill. Purges are limited like I already said, either by quantity (diffusal) or long cooldowns.

Please post your dotabuff to show everyone all these games where you have decimated the opposition with this OP hero.

Have you actually played slardar? Do you have any idea how to play this hero? lollll

Hint: Vanguard is a no-no.

[sadge]

Originally posted by dango:

as i remember barathrum (spirit breaker) is better than slardar in many terms

Let's see:

Bash chance: 25% vs 17%

Nope.