MOBA player = stupid?

[lerith75]

ok so i dont normally make discussions but this is a serisoue reacruing issue. so i was in a game as pa in the saflane i had a ogre magi as my lane support vs a solo weaver. my support leaves to support top despite the person their demanding to be solo. yet despite this my support isist on staying top. so im now a pa vs a weaver solo (the weaver was ahead on levles due to soloing from the start) and i died once. was caught out of position and was my fualt entirly. i took responsiblity and tp'd back bot however i called for help and asked my support to return to my lane. he decided to stay top for some unknown reason. i resume facing the weaver in a 1v1 and it seems to be going ok.

until he manages to dive my tower and kill me thanks to his vision from the swarm and escape from his ult. i once again tp bot and call for help this time im more agressive due to dying by my suports incompetence, this time i get a successful gank from mid however its not what i need, i needed a baby sitter to help me farm. my 3rd death was from pudge hookig me from the tower, (no vision as we had no wards). this time i get incredibly frustrated having been ignored twice by someone that was suppose to support me from the start so i i begin flaming him (not as harsh as most people, didnt tell him to kill himself ext) and my team begins accusing me of being a bad player and person. this contnues until the end of the game in whch i am completly blamed for the loss of my team.

now the point im trying to make is in my opinion i was not in the wrong completly. yes i flamed but i manage to keep myself in somewhat control when i do. but my team didn't seem to think that maybe if they didnt help me i wont be able to help them or do my job yet i still get blamed for this bad game.

[lerith75]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pyrite:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Umbreon:

tl;dr or with proper paragraphing and grammar? Can't read it in this state, hurts too much to try.

I rewrote the first paragraph if you want to read it. It's the post right above yours.

thanks man

[lerith75]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Damnagic:

Your story really feels like it's incomplete and is missing "the ogre wasn't doing what I wanted so I moaned a bit about what he should be doing after which for some unknown reason he decided to go top lane".
That's something I see happening way more often than it should and would make a lot of sense but, seen some players act like they are in a completely different dimension and detached from the ongoing game so dunno.
Sucks that it happened if it happened like you said it did.

as i said, we had a tb that called solo top (though we had a tusk that had to soak that lane as he had nowhere else to go) so at first i ashime he tped top to get a kill or counter and agressive gank however after my first death i realised about a minute had passed and he still had not returned to my lane. im not sure exactly what i said (i would not have been anything too aggressive at the most something along the lines of "ogre what the hell are you still doing top get down here man")

[Chronic]

I play solo in 80% of my games and my experience is, that most of the players are seriously lacking in the combinating department in regard of thinking wide and ahead. We all know what is going to transpire in each game (i mean picking, farming, ganking, teamfights, pushing....) we should know the heroes.

Here i have to stop.
My greatest complaint with matchmaking is that i have 2000+ hrs on record. Based on my dotabuff i only have 1 hero i never palyed and with 83 heroes i got 2+ KDA. I have played vs every hero, seen a lot of builds and how flexible it is possible to play each.
I do support a lot and im serious about this. I almost played a year of supporting which has enhanced my skills enormously.
I suggest every fresh players to play support for even 1000 games, to really get the hang of the game and learn the basics and get to know the heroes.

Getting back to the original tought.
What i cannot accept is the tunnel vision 80% of the playerbase has, like they all think the other 4 idiots are there to make him king of the day.

They get fake ideas about the actual match because they only think of themselves. Instead of:

-trying to think as team,
-look at the picks they make,
-look at the enemy picks

and make sure they contribute as much as they can to ensure victory.
They want the 4 strangers to make sure he can play whatever he wants and never thinking about helping THE OTHER player. Which is very lifelike 'cuz people are egoistic, selfish bastards in real life too, why would they act different online. They are actually worse due to anonimity.

So yes, casual MOBA players are dumb, egoistic and simple minded. This is due to the free-to-play model too i have to say. If they had to play for it, they would take it more serious, or quit playing much earlier, if they realise it is not for them. But because its F2P, we have and they gonna stay and multiply. There is no age control either so it is possible to que up with an 8 years old wannabe with his brothers account.

I just dont get it, why do i have to play with them. I honestly have to say, that most of the teammates i get in soloque are seriously worse players than me, either in knowledge of the game or just being slow in the head a.k.a. dumb.

TLDR: ego destorys teamplay

/edited for grammar/

[Chronic]

Also to add forfeit to solo que pub games WOULDNT HURT ANYBODY!

[Krpa]

I just had a Tinker in my team. He walks down to lanes, even with travel boots.
That same tinker was waiting for cooldowns, while at 60%+ mana.
This is a new bottom. xD

[76561198265062461]

Adapt and innovate. If you found co worker that frustrates you, you ignore their presence and start innovating yourself so you can get your job done.
Dont put your hope on strangers for good team cooperation. If they seem know how to do it, good for them. You can cooperate without even texting or yelling at mic.
If they don't seem to know. Then you are on your own. Buy the wards to secure your own farm. Yellow and blue ward are only 275 gold combined. How would that hurt so much to your solo farm.

[codetoad]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chronic:

I play solo in 80% of my games and my experience is, that most of the players are seriously lacking in the combinating department in regard of thinking wide and ahead. We all know what is going to transpire in each game (i mean picking, farming, ganking, teamfights, pushing....) we should know the heroes.

Here i have to stop.
My greatest complaint with matchmaking is that i have 2000+ hrs on record. Based on my dotabuff i only have 1 hero i never palyed and with 83 heroes i got 2+ KDA. I have played vs every hero, seen a lot of builds and how flexible it is possible to play each.
I do support a lot and im serious about this. I almost played a year of supporting which has enhanced my skills enormously.
I suggest every fresh players to play support for even 1000 games, to really get the hang of the game and learn the basics and get to know the heroes.

Getting back to the original tought.
What i cannot accept is the tunnel vision 80% of the playerbase has, like they all think the other 4 idiots are there to make him king of the day.

They get fake ideas about the actual match because they only think of themselves. Instead of:

-trying to think as team,
-look at the picks they make,
-look at the enemy picks

and make sure they contribute as much as they can to ensure victory.
They want the 4 strangers to make sure he can play whatever he wants and never thinking about helping THE OTHER player. Which is very lifelike 'cuz people are egoistic, selfish bastards in real life too, why would they act different online. They are actually worse due to anonimity.

So yes, casual MOBA players are dumb, egoistic and simple minded. This is due to the free-to-play model too i have to say. If they had to play for it, they would take it more serious, or quit playing much earlier, if they realise it is not for them. But because its F2P, we have and they gonna stay and multiply. There is no age control either so it is possible to que up with an 8 years old wannabe with his brothers account.

I just dont get it, why do i have to play with them. I honestly have to say, that most of the teammates i get in soloque are seriously worse players than me, either in knowledge of the game or just being slow in the head a.k.a. dumb.

TLDR: ego destorys teamplay

/edited for grammar/

why did you revive this

[Chronic]

You mean why did i wrote in the topic? Out of frustration playing Dota.