Is ursa not a good carry anymore?

[NEXUS]

I don't know, I just don't feel it with ursa anymore, you charge your 2nd 2 times and go all out on a support, use bkb, nullifier, ult, and even then, the supports either gets away, and you can't kill anyone after, or they don't get away, but still you can't kill anyone anymore.
Compare it to drow, she has more dmg, can change targets easily, is ranged, slows enemies that attacks, silences and reveals them, and has true strike, it's like she has orchid, rapier, dust, mkb, all built in. why would you choose ursa over drow in any circumstance?

[NEXUS]

Drow also has skadi in built, because she slows enemies down, I forgot to add

[NEXUS]

also has battlefury like because of her 3rd, she can farm easily, ursa needs a battlefury,
also because she is ranged, she doesn't usually need bkb because she won't engage.

[MVP_lCE™]

If you find the difficult to engage or approach the Drow as your enemy, then why you don't try with invisibility for your hero?

Many other ways or strategies are available if you can think further because Drow is NOT the Godlike-hero who is able to dominate the whole map in all circumstances. As long as Drow is known as a "Not Godlike hero", I can conclude there must be at least a way or strategy to counter that hero, or you may request your teammate(s) to suggest ideas to you during the gameplay. Hope it helps.

[NEXUS]

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

You spoke nothing about ursa

[Riblion]

Ursa is pretty strong reaching 53% winrate in high ranks and 52% in pro games

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by NEXUS:

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

You spoke nothing about ursa

In your topic, you compared the Ursa to Drow like the Ursa is a useless hero. Therefore, I can give or tell you that Ursa still has strength or strategy there. If you made a comparison but you denied that comparison, then why don't you erase or delete that comparison from your topic?

[vongogh]

I do feel that, feels like he is just kited around every time, also I think some Ursa players don't realize the supports who buy Atos or root skill heroes was for him, he then proceeds to solo fights.

Should Ursa buy Atos, Bash is without question.

Also you could kill rosh before 10 minutes many patches ago, now no one tries that. No one picks Ursa much, not even in Turbo.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by vongogh:

I do feel that, feels like he is just kited around every time, also I think some Ursa players don't realize the supports who buy Atos or root skill heroes was for him, he then proceeds to solo fights.

Should Ursa buy Atos, Bash is without question.

Also you could kill rosh before 10 minutes many patches ago, now no one tries that. No one picks Ursa much, not even in Turbo.

+1. The funnier thing can be, more patches ago, Lv1 Ursa can kill Roshan before the game timer starts.

[vongogh]

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

+1. The funnier thing can be, more patches ago, Lv1 Ursa can kill Roshan before the game timer starts.

Wait, really? It was a thing, once level 7-8, get Vlads or even just Morbid mask. This was when Rosh was in the mid river. Maybe the problem is there is no Ursa meta atm, the popular in game guides are kind of crap for many heroes nowadays.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by vongogh:

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

+1. The funnier thing can be, more patches ago, Lv1 Ursa can kill Roshan before the game timer starts.

Wait, really? It was a thing, once level 7-8, get Vlads or even just Morbid mask. This was when Rosh was in the mid river. Maybe the problem is there is no Ursa meta atm, the popular in game guides are kind of crap for many heroes nowadays.

Just a sharing of opinion about situation of many years ago but such abuse for Ursa has been fixed.

[kovacs]

just get diffusal man!:)

[NEXUS]

Ursa is tanky, the newest thing I saw about him was the octarine aghanim shard build, he still harasses, so he can't be ignored, but carry ursa? He can just focus on 1 hero, and all of enemies can just focus saving that hero with everything they got, euls are good support items that counter ursa really bad, there is just so much downsides to ursa that I can't even finish the list.

[MVP_lCE™]

Originally posted by NEXUS:

Ursa is tanky, the newest thing I saw about him was the octarine aghanim shard build, he still harasses, so he can't be ignored, but carry ursa? He can just focus on 1 hero, and all of enemies can just focus saving that hero with everything they got, euls are good support items that counter ursa really bad, there is just so much downsides to ursa that I can't even finish the list.

Carry is not a role. What do you mean by "carry ursa" there?

[NEXUS]

Originally posted by MVP_ICE:

Pos 1 ursa, like if you let ursa farm and carry the game, he should be pos3, so there is not much relying on him, he is too easily kited.

[Artek [General]]

Always depends on the team. I've seen ursas who were kited to hell and back, but Ive also seen crazy ursas you can't escape from. They blink into you out of nowhere and you're gone.

Ursa is still a strong carry, crazy DPS and ult makes him effectively immortal for a couple of seconds, but he completely lacks any form of crowd control and he has to depend on his team for it. If team isn't there - Ursa will simply be kited for all eternity.