Dota 2
Revol Jul 20, 2024 @ 1:25pm
I'm getting killed all the time & can't help my team
I'm DOTA 2 beginner (not a complete newbie, but still learning. ~70 wins & 40% win rate). I have a major problem: in every single match, no matter what hero I play, no matter the position - I get OBLITERATED. I never got to be MVP and I'm pretty much always the worst (unless I have literal bots or people playing their first game in my team). I consider game to be "good" if I have at least one kill more than deaths (for example: 10 kills, 9 deaths) since often my KDR is either even, or I get more deaths... it really hurts, cuz not only I don't get as much joy from the game, but also can't help my team with winning (more often I do the opposite, by feeding the enemy team with my attempts to get kills). It also causes my team to be toxic and angry, calling me useless or a griefer (if I stay on lane & try to fight, I get called out for feeding - if I go to farm in jungle, I get called out for being useless and leaving the lane...). I don't know what could I do to get better. Players are unfriendly and don't offer any help, youtube tutorials make everything look easy and smooth, and in the end I'm stuck at the bottom trying my best to do anything.
Only hero I'm decent at is the Bloodseeker. Games where I play as safelane Bloodseeker are my best, with me sometimes (rarely, but still) getting double the kills compared to deaths (my best ever was probably 17 kills, 9 deaths). But I can't play only Bloodseeker... and even if I do, I'm still the worst player in the team, with level 2 or even 3 lower than other teammates. What can I do to become better, die less, kill more often & and start getting mvp? :steamsad:
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
Originally posted by Revol:
Thanks everyone for not responding...
Of course it's more important to post about the "flawed behaviour score" or "russian hackers" etc instead of helping out new player, to actually make this community better...:steamfacepalm:
Just saw a wall of text and didnt really want to read it all :/

I think positioning and map awereness are skills that new players struggle most with exception to how to itemize and how lane matchups work.

Also if you dont have a decent pool of carry heroes youre not good with, you should try playing some support to get used to looking at the map more and understanding how to position yourself and how to create kills.

Looks like you have about 200 games of dota, probably gonna take you 200-500 more to adjust with your roles and trying heroes.

just try to atleast watch the map more and if the map is dark and you havent seen a hero in a while maybe you shouldnt be in a lane alone and move to your team. Play and farm where you have vision.

Atleast you watch youtube vids and maybe watch some pros when they stream. Thats a lot more dedicaton than most. Ive seen new players refuse to buy brownboots because its 500g and they rather want dmg.

When players start throwing comments your way that is in no way useful for you or your team, mute them instantly. Focus on yourself and not their ♥♥♥♥.
Good luck with the grind dude.
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bun Jul 21, 2024 @ 4:45pm 
It's moreso the formatting and length of the post that I anticipate is the reason for the silence. Like a TLDR thing
76561198062940204 Jul 21, 2024 @ 5:12pm 
Dota 2 is hard to get good due to its mechanical complexity and gameplay complexity. The former need your own pre-real-game explorations and the latter depend on rankings of you games.

Personally i think you should just explore while playing until you get to calibrate your mmr after 100 hours. After you know your medal/rank, go search on youtubes on how to get better than players from that rank.

After you get the hang of the Dota 2, make new account and use it as new main.
Sentient Entropy Jul 21, 2024 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by ranked destroyer:
Dota 2 is hard to get good due to its mechanical complexity and gameplay complexity. The former need your own pre-real-game explorations and the latter depend on rankings of you games.

Personally i think you should just explore while playing until you get to calibrate your mmr after 100 hours. After you know your medal/rank, go search on youtubes on how to get better than players from that rank.

After you get the hang of the Dota 2, make new account and use it as new main.

Learn while doing: good advice.

Make an alt account and play: bad advice, you could wind up losing both accounts.
°Dofus Jul 21, 2024 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by Revol:
Thanks everyone for not responding...
Of course it's more important to post about the "flawed behaviour score" or "russian hackers" etc instead of helping out new player, to actually make this community better...:steamfacepalm:
skill issue.:murica:
Mynadar Jul 21, 2024 @ 6:07pm 
Maybe watch number of high mmr games (those are the ones at top when you go to watch tab in game client) and choise the player perspective option to see what is the player doing exactly.

Sadly dota is a lot about macro and counter picking/item building which you just have to learn, but you can learn it the easy way from watching the games instead of the hard way of getting stomped because you did not did it right.
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Dinsdale Jul 21, 2024 @ 6:07pm 
Originally posted by Revol:
Thanks everyone for not responding...
Of course it's more important to post about the "flawed behaviour score" or "russian hackers" etc instead of helping out new player, to actually make this community better...:steamfacepalm:
Just saw a wall of text and didnt really want to read it all :/

I think positioning and map awereness are skills that new players struggle most with exception to how to itemize and how lane matchups work.

Also if you dont have a decent pool of carry heroes youre not good with, you should try playing some support to get used to looking at the map more and understanding how to position yourself and how to create kills.

Looks like you have about 200 games of dota, probably gonna take you 200-500 more to adjust with your roles and trying heroes.

just try to atleast watch the map more and if the map is dark and you havent seen a hero in a while maybe you shouldnt be in a lane alone and move to your team. Play and farm where you have vision.

Atleast you watch youtube vids and maybe watch some pros when they stream. Thats a lot more dedicaton than most. Ive seen new players refuse to buy brownboots because its 500g and they rather want dmg.

When players start throwing comments your way that is in no way useful for you or your team, mute them instantly. Focus on yourself and not their ♥♥♥♥.
Good luck with the grind dude.
Last edited by Dinsdale; Jul 21, 2024 @ 6:17pm
Sentient Entropy Jul 22, 2024 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by Dinsdale:
Originally posted by Revol:
Thanks everyone for not responding...
Of course it's more important to post about the "flawed behaviour score" or "russian hackers" etc instead of helping out new player, to actually make this community better...:steamfacepalm:
Just saw a wall of text and didnt really want to read it all :/

Ordering your thoughts in such a way as to make others more likely to parse them in the first place is also good advice.
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Date Posted: Jul 20, 2024 @ 1:25pm
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